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 Post subject: Re: Are You Out There?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:39 pm 
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and in the distance, the soft voice of Theo calls out "Wait till next....ur, uh, I mean wait at least until 2014 but probably longer as it takes a lot to build a team from the bottom up!"



The best part of it for Cubs fans, is that Hoyer/Epstein were upfront about this. We knew the team would not contend in 2012 and will not in 2013 either. Nobody should be upset about losing 100, because whether the number is 92, 95 or over 100, means nothing except a better draft choice. Patience is a virtue and in time, this should provide cub fans with a team capable of sustained excellence. It will be well worth the wait and when it happens, the stands will be packed, not half full. It should be a source of great shame to Sox management that they have averaged crowds of 24,000 fans while the Cubs have averaged 35,000. That, with a team that will lose perhaps over 100 games, while they had a team in contention for their division. Shameful...


What shame would attendance bring on me. Conversely, what comfort does Cub attendance bring to you. The answer on both sides should be none.

As far as patience, your father, his father and his father all had patience. They put their faith in good baseball men. Dallas Green was every bit the administrative baseball mind as Theo. Mc Phail had much success in Minnesota. Both would have been just as worthy in placing blind faith as you do Theo...and neither produced a world series.


McFail was not given a budget that he could contend with. Thats why once Hendry did so much better immediately after he was hired and the purse strings were loosened. But he spent unwisely and didn't draft well enough. Dallas Green was a great Baseball man, but the organization got rid of him too soon. As far as my Father goes, he never cared much for baseball and never had a lot of patience either. I'm really not too sure about my Great-Grandfather. Grampa liked Baseball and he was patient. But he liked golf a lot more. And if given the chance to win a golf tournament (he won several-he was a scratch golfer) or see the Cubs win a World Series, I know he would have chosen to win the tournament. As far as the attendance goes, I think it's important for a couple reasons. If the Cubs attendance were to dwindle too much, too quickly, they might feel more of a sense of urgency to improve the club in the short term. Doing so might have adverse ramifications for the long term interests of the club. On the other side of town, it's just amazing that the fan base does not get behind a team in contention for their division title. It has to be discouraging to a management team that has tried so hard to give the team a chance this season. With so many free agents possibly leaving (Peavy, Youkilis, A.J. and Liriano for example) and the team possibly going more sincerely into a rebuilding mode, fans should have gotten behind this group while they had the chance. Leaner times may well be ahead.

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 Post subject: Re: Are You Out There?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:44 pm 
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I had the absolute closest point total as well as the winning team (of course) , but missed the exact total of the Packers by a single point. If the contest had any real integrity, I would have been the winner that week. The total for each team was the closest of all. Don't try to discredit that pick.

Good lord, the rule of having one of the scores was posted in the first post in the contest thread. Retroactively changing it would have discredited the entire contest. In closing, get over it, and shut the hell up.



I really could not care less about the shirt. It was predicting not only who would win, but that Cutler would throw a couple picks and suck overall... that Benson would make meaningful plays and cotribute. that the Pack and the under was the way to go (as I did) not the over as so may thought ....It was all the predictions coming through that I cared about. I told the story of the game before it was played.

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The crisp autumn air tells me that elmhurst steve is getting ready to start bullshitting his bowling scores again real soon.

I had a 278 two weeks ago today. Oh and thats a sanctioned league, so lets get that straight too. Go look it up dipshit. It's the thursday night trio league at Poplar creek Bowl. Had a 624 series this past Sunday at Classic Bowl as well. Thats a sanctioned league too. You should be able to tell that I've done fairly well by the fact that Chus has not bothered to report my scores.


What's the point? Do I really need to keep hitting you over the head?

I proved that you were a liar. My work here is done.

Do you really want to brag about your 192 average? That is after 12 games, including the 278. How about your other league, where you are 179? About what are you bragging?

My offer to you remains on the table.

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 Post subject: Re: Are You Out There?
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I am very happy with a 192 average and the 179 average rose cosiderably after last Sundays 624 series. None of that is a source of embarassment to me. Forward your USBC information and I'll see about setting something up.

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My final averages for the last seven years:

05-06: 204
06-07: 210
07-08: 209
08-09: 206
09-10: 213
10-11: 207
11-12: 215

12-13: 213 after six games

My 2010-11 season was cut short due to rotator cuff tendonitis and bursitis. If you want medical records, I could dig those up, as well. I really struggled for the last six weeks, before I quit for the year. The pain was so intense, I couldn't lift my son out of his crib.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
I am very happy with a 192 average and the 179 average rose cosiderably after last Sundays 624 series. None of that is a source of embarassment to me. Forward your USBC information and I'll see about setting something up.


I never said you should be embarrassed at 192. I said you shouldn't brag. I'm just a guy at 215, but that is leaps and bounds ahead of a 192.

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I read this thread last night and it was concerning Sox attendance.

I click on it now and Steve still can't fucking figure out how he didn't win a t-shirt? That chicken and the egg thing must give him a massive migraine.


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Chus wrote:
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I am very happy with a 192 average and the 179 average rose cosiderably after last Sundays 624 series. None of that is a source of embarassment to me. Forward your USBC information and I'll see about setting something up.


I never said you should be embarrassed at 192. I said you shouldn't brag. I'm just a guy at 215, but that is leaps and bounds ahead of a 192.


Come on, Chus. Even today with the lanes blocked they way they often are, 215 is more than "just a guy." Carrying those averages that you have, you're a serious dude. Even if you're left-handed. I agree there are tons of guys that can average 190 or so these days, but when you start getting over 210, I don't care how easy the conditions are, you're bowling your ass off.

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I am very happy with a 192 average and the 179 average rose cosiderably after last Sundays 624 series. None of that is a source of embarassment to me. Forward your USBC information and I'll see about setting something up.


I never said you should be embarrassed at 192. I said you shouldn't brag. I'm just a guy at 215, but that is leaps and bounds ahead of a 192.


Come on, Chus. Even today with the lanes blocked they way they often are, 215 is more than "just a guy." Carrying those averages that you have, you're a serious dude. Even if you're left-handed. I agree there are tons of guys that can average 190 or so these days, but when you start getting over 210, I don't care how easy the conditions are, you're bowling your ass off.


I usually fall in the top 10% or top 15% every year in our league. We have a couple of guys who average 230, so that's why I say I'm just a guy. There are plenty of guys on Mondays and Fridays that can average 215, and there are plenty of guys who can light me up. It is a HUGE step up from 190 to 210. It's an even bigger step up from 210 to 230.

I am right-handed, so I usually have seven or eight other bowlers tearing up my line. My favorite opponents are a team with four lefties. Add the one on our team, and there are 5 out of 10. I can usually hold my line most of the night. A good friend of mine is usually at 220, but I tell him it doesn't count because he is lefty.

Every bowling tale that I have ever told is 100% accurate. I have been to all four CSFMB bowling events, so I have displayed evidence to point to this fact.

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 Post subject: Re: Are You Out There?
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Chus wrote:
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I am very happy with a 192 average and the 179 average rose cosiderably after last Sundays 624 series. None of that is a source of embarassment to me. Forward your USBC information and I'll see about setting something up.


I never said you should be embarrassed at 192. I said you shouldn't brag. I'm just a guy at 215, but that is leaps and bounds ahead of a 192.


Come on, Chus. Even today with the lanes blocked they way they often are, 215 is more than "just a guy." Carrying those averages that you have, you're a serious dude. Even if you're left-handed. I agree there are tons of guys that can average 190 or so these days, but when you start getting over 210, I don't care how easy the conditions are, you're bowling your ass off.


I usually fall in the top 10% or top 15% every year in our league. We have a couple of guys who average 230, so that's why I say I'm just a guy. There are plenty of guys on Mondays and Fridays that can average 215, and there are plenty of guys who can light me up. It is a HUGE step up from 190 to 210. It's an even bigger step up from 210 to 230.

I am right-handed, so I usually have seven or eight other bowlers tearing up my line. My favorite opponents are a team with four lefties. Add the one on our team, and there are 5 out of 10. I can usually hold my line most of the night. A good friend of mine is usually at 220, but I tell him it doesn't count because he is lefty.

Every bowling tale that I have ever told is 100% accurate. I have been to all four CSFMB bowling events, so I have displayed evidence to point to this fact.


There are that many guys scoring that high now? Wow! I can remember when something in the 190s led most Friday night scratch leagues. If a guy carried 200+ he was really doing something. A guy who averaged 180 was pretty good.

That's one thing I don't like about today's bowling. It's tougher to tell who is good. I mean I'm really just a guy. I was never better than the fourth man on any team I bowled on. I haven't bowled in a league in about fifteen years, but a few years back my girlfriend and some of her friends had a bowling night. I swear I hadn't picked up a ball in about ten years. Still, I had one in the trunk of my car. There was a lot of chuckling when I brought it out. I shot over 200 both games. I forget where it was. Maybe Habetler. The next best guy there was struggling with 150. They acted like I was some strange species because I had a ball and knew what the fuck I was doing. They were asking me questions like I was Johnny Fucking Petraglia. :lol:

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Just when I thought baseball couldn't get any worse as a topic for conversation you guys add bowling to the shit storm.

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Just when I thought baseball couldn't get any worse as a topic for conversation you guys add bowling to the shit storm.


I thought it was a nice change of pace from all the loser Cubs fans taking over this section.

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