I've watched quite a few debates over the years. I've never seen a display like that.

You don't cherry-pick corrections. Even though you immediately identified your error, your attempt to "even it out" is too late.

Unless you plan to fact-check every misstep, you cannot interject your version of events. The greater point being made is lost in your version of how things should be stated.

You either correct everything (which is impossible) or you try to at least keep the time straight. That was embarrassing.

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She is quite a beast on top of all of that.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Yeah that wasn't cool.

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Did they dust off that shitty meapants parody song for her walkout?

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I had no problem with it. In fact I would like to see more of it. If I were a republican supporter I would have more of an issue with the Obama friendly questions than anything else.

Yup. Candy was completely out of line. Mitt should have called her out. Sure, Barry was reeling & needed help, but the Fat ass moderator should STFU.

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Aww, Scorehead.....starting to get worried that your boy is gonna lose?

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There were some friendly questions going both ways. I thought the woman who asked Romney about her middle class deductions sounded like a plant by the Democrats and Kerry seemed like a Republican plant.

I haven't heard the spin on this one yet outside of what Panther was posting here, but it seems he and I watched a different debate. Romney's answers were vague and general and Obama came off as calm and presidential. And I'm sure both guys told there share of lies and half-truths. I'm going to have a hard time punching a ballot for either of these goofs, but Obama took a step toward getting my vote back last night.

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Are you sure you don't want to call anyone an Obama dick-sucker?

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Because they have to.

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Oh my God!
How the hell did Baby McNown steal spmack's password?

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Sarley showing the stunning insight that makes him a strong contributor to the board.

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Debates should be ran like chess matches. Once your timer runs out, you aren't allowed to talk for the rest of the debate.

I felt Romney came across as a rude jackass, specifically when the topic revolved around equal rights.

"Binder full of women", he says.

I think that part of the debate was the only part that made me think one candidate clearly had the upper hand. The rest of the 85 minutes was pandering bullshit, but it was evident by their answers that Obama either cares more about women's equality, or is at least much better at pretending to care.

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Considering Crowley had "facts" to support Obama's position readily available upon request of the President proved she certainly wasn't an unbiased moderator.

Can we finally get some chess match coverage here at the CSFMB? I am thinking about MOFO style Tour de France updates. I nominate benihana for this illustrious position.

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Be that as it may, that doesn't in any way make true what Romney claimed though.

Burying the story by burying the moderator.

Douche vs. Turd Sandwich again this year.

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I think the lack of "women's equality" in the workplace is bullshit for the most part. These unsubstaniated numbers people like to throw around- "women make 72 cents for every dollar men make." What is the basis for that number? It's like the claim that 10% of the population is gay. And even if it were true, it's not an apples to apples comparison. There are just more men in higher level jobs. If you think that's a problem, okay. I see the "solution" as better education and more training for women. The fact that women significantly outnumber men at U.S. universities suggests to me that the problem has been addressed and the results will naturally manifest temselves in the future.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Exactly. It's completely senseless if you think about it. I cant believe we have collectively lowered our standards this much. If one of the guys "only" lied like 20 times last night they would have easily won the stupid fact check contest at the end. If either candidate lies more than once or twice in less than 40 minutes of speaking, how can you trust or believe anything they say? Both candidates lied constantly, and the people are criticizing the moderator for correcting them one damn time. If people want to elect clown candidates than they cant complain about the circuses that result.

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Haven't you suggest it was naive when people claimed racism isnt a problem anymore in 2012? I think that same line of thinking applies to sexism, although I agree with you that it seems to be progressing to the point where it should balance out sooner rather than later, because of the factor you cited.

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100% correct. Good post.

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10% OF THE POPULATION IS GAY???!!!??!?!?! WTF!!!!!!

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Oh, I'm not suggesting there aren't certain workplaces that can be tough on a female. I'm just not blindly accepting that 72 cents figure simply because some feminist dyke spits it out. It sounds good and it's a great rallying cry for a generation of young women. I'm just uncertain of its veracity.

I'll ask this. Is it the experience of anyone here that equally graded jobs within an organization where they worked featured unequal pay based solely upon the sexes of the employees?

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Fair enough. I agree with that.



Yes. When I was a bartender at Fridays the hot brunette bartender would always make twice as much as I did on a Friday night. It was bullshit.

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I was going to get to that. I bet she wasn't complaining. What it comes down to is simply this: No matter who you are, not everything goes your way all the time.

My girlfriend has been at the same place a long time and has a fairly high level job. Several years ago the CEO took an interest in her and demanded to know exactly what she did. She ended up switching departments and jobs and took a small pay cut. In the end it worked out better for her and her career, but it was really a fuck job based on some douchebag department head wanting to slash down his budget. But the other side of the coin is that about twelve or fifteen years ago she was basically a glorified administrative assistant and her boss took a shine to her because she was young and cute. She got some big promotion and a giant raise. It just doesn't go your way all the time. But sometimes it does.

I consider myself a feminist. Do you have a pussy? I'll fight you or fuck you. Whatever you want.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

SAM
You know, we should make a joke about women, 'cause there's no law against that or paying them less money than men.

AINSLEY
Well, there is a law against that. It’s the Pay Equity Act. It's passed in 1964, when women were making 59 cents to the dollar.

SAM
What are you making now?

AINSLEY
79 cents.

SAM
So, everything's fine.

AINSLEY
No, there are still some problems. But I’m not worried ‘cause the federal government’s coming to the rescue.

SAM
Look...

AINSLEY
You think pay disparity is ‘cause some sexist in human resources hired two people for equal positions and paid the man more?

SAM
Oftentimes...

AINSLEY
And oftentimes women make less money over the course of their lifetimes because they choose to.

SAM
Oh, goodnight nurse! They don't choose to make less money. They're financially punished for having kids.

AINSLEY
They made a choice to have kids.

SAM
Well, not necessarily if you guys have your way, but that's a different can of tuna. [beat] I flat-out guarantee you that if men were biologically responsible for procreation, there'd be paid family leave in every Fortune 500.

AINSLEY
Sam, if men were biologically responsible for procreation,they'd fall down and die at the first sonogram.

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Think CNN is thrilled about the controversy involving Candy Crowley at last night's Presidential Debate? No. Network bosses aren't exactly thrilled Candy has become part of the story. However, TMZ.com says the all-news network might be "Ducking" the controversy.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/17/candy-cro ... ntroversy/