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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:28 am 
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Well, we had a good run boys. Last one out, turn off the lights. I'll see you at the reunion where we can talk about the old times.

Our political significance has been reduced to being nothing but check writers.

On a similar note, Mr. Rubio, your table is ready. On a local level, Mrs. Alvarez, yours is as well.

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Well, we had a good run boys. Last one out, turn off the lights. I'll see you at the reunion where we can talk about the old times.

Our political significance has been reduced to being nothing but check writers.

On a similar note, Mr. Rubio, your table is ready. On a local level, Mrs. Alvarez, yours is as well.


Exactly right.

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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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I keep hearing Condoleeza Rice's name. I don't imagine she would stand up well to scrutiny regarding her lack of clarity prior to 9/11 and her subsequent congressional stonewalling. She would also not play very well with the lunatic not so fringe currently embraced by the party.

The real interesting thing will be when Cruz throws his hat in the ring as the true representative of multicultural conservatives.

Where is that GW's spanish speaking nephew that the Republicans pimped out at the convention almost a decade ago. They brought that kid on as a prop and you never heard from him again.

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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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I feel like I missed out on the heyday of the white man. That shit ended maybe in the 80s?

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At least we're all still rich!

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
At least we're all still rich!

I didn't get that memo or the checks.

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I'm shitting in the toilet tank, stealing the copper wiring and pouring cement in the drains before I leave. :twisted:

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I'm shitting in the toilet tank, stealing the copper wiring and pouring cement in the drains before I leave. :twisted:

:lol:

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I'm shitting in the toilet tank, stealing the copper wiring and pouring cement in the drains before I leave. :twisted:


We're used to that from "you guys"...... :wink: :lol:

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Hawg Ass wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
At least we're all still rich!

I didn't get that memo or the checks.
With the amount of money you have you are the Sultan of Arkansas and/or the Sultan of Wisconsin. I apologize, I'm not sure what hick state you currently live in.

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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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At least we're all still rich!

I didn't get that memo or the checks.
With the amount of money you have you are the Sultan of Arkansas and/or the Sultan of Wisconsin. I apologize, I'm not sure what hick state you currently live in.

With the way you worded that it doesn't matter, I am poor either way. :(

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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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I keep hearing Condoleeza Rice's name.


Sounds like the wife has a pretty interesting imagination.

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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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Can the Republican party take these last two elections as a sign, and change their voter base? If I were them, I would trade the religious right for Hispanics and single women in a heartbeat. I think they would still lock up the south anyway, and they would fair much better in all the swing states. And it wouldn't be hard. Just run a candidate that is pro-choice, and open to immigration reform.

I'm sure I'm missing something in this calculus.


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you realize disney is going to sue you for using that avatar?


Can they still afford lawyers after forking over $4 billion dollars to make a movie starring a 61-year old Mark Hamill?


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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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Too bad Romney didn't win, he could have held a beer summit over that.


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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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So are white men a minority yet? I know we're steadily heading there.... i heard fox news talking about how the future is young latino voters and i heard either rove or krauthammer talk about how latinos are family-oriented and religious so therefore they're "people who should be voting for us", ergo, i'm ready for rubio 2016 cuz the right will go "hey, we can stick with the same platform and get the novelty latino vote like obama did for the blacks.... i'm just sayin" #athansmotors

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Too bad Romney didn't win, he could have held a beer summit over that.


I'm guessing it would be sparkling white grape juice .... I don't think those Mormon whackos can drink.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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Too bad Romney didn't win, he could have held a beer summit over that.


I'm guessing it would be sparkling white grape juice .... I don't think those Mormon whackos can drink.



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Can the Republican party take these last two elections as a sign, and change their voter base? If I were them, I would trade the religious right for Hispanics and single women in a heartbeat. I think they would still lock up the south anyway, and they would fair much better in all the swing states. And it wouldn't be hard. Just run a candidate that is pro-choice, and open to immigration reform.

I'm sure I'm missing something in this calculus.


Abe Lincoln...the original Republican!

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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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Can the Republican party take these last two elections as a sign, and change their voter base? If I were them, I would trade the religious right for Hispanics and single women in a heartbeat. I think they would still lock up the south anyway, and they would fair much better in all the swing states. And it wouldn't be hard. Just run a candidate that is pro-choice, and open to immigration reform.

I'm sure I'm missing something in this calculus.


Abe Lincoln...the original Republican!


So, would Abe be anti-abortion, but pro-choice? Principled yet pragmatic?



And one thing wrong with my calculus is that it would eliminate Rubio from being a candidate (I assume his is pro-life?)


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You would think these smart business men would be able to understand math when it comes to the demographics in this country. Unfortunately republicans are stubborn and stuck in the past. Winning elections by disregarding women and minorities is so 1988. I'm really curious how they're going to pivot or if they will.


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I'm shitting in the toilet tank, stealing the copper wiring and pouring cement in the drains before I leave. :twisted:


We used to call than an "upper decker".

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 Post subject: Re: White Men
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You would think these smart business men would be able to understand math when it comes to the demographics in this country. Unfortunately republicans are stubborn and stuck in the past. Winning elections by disregarding women and minorities is so 1988. I'm really curious how they're going to pivot or if they will.


I think they know the demographics, but they figured if the economy remained in the tank, they could eek out one more election the old-fashioned way. If the economy hadn't shown signs of recovery (real or not), it probably would have worked.


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Can the Republican party take these last two elections as a sign, and change their voter base? If I were them, I would trade the religious right for Hispanics and single women in a heartbeat. I think they would still lock up the south anyway, and they would fair much better in all the swing states. And it wouldn't be hard. Just run a candidate that is pro-choice, and open to immigration reform.

I'm sure I'm missing something in this calculus.


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Makaveli wrote:
You would think these smart business men would be able to understand math when it comes to the demographics in this country. Unfortunately republicans are stubborn and stuck in the past. Winning elections by disregarding women and minorities is so 1988. I'm really curious how they're going to pivot or if they will.


I think they know the demographics, but they figured if the economy remained in the tank, they could eek out one more election the old-fashioned way. If the economy hadn't shown signs of recovery (real or not), it probably would have worked.


As an old white male I have often wondered the same thing and the solution seems simple: the GOP should stick to the two main issues --The economy and foreign policy -- and quit muddying the waters with all the other distracting anti-stuff, like gay marriage, abortion and immigration. Abortion is legal and that won't change and the others should be left to the states to deal with.

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No, it should be a federal issue to say that gay people and women aren't second-class citizens.

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Makaveli wrote:
You would think these smart business men would be able to understand math when it comes to the demographics in this country. Unfortunately republicans are stubborn and stuck in the past. Winning elections by disregarding women and minorities is so 1988. I'm really curious how they're going to pivot or if they will.


I have watched as the democratic party re courted the white ethnic vote in Clinton's first run after Reagan had taken them from the party. After Clinton, the national Democratic party pretty much abandoned attempts to maintain the relationship. In this particular election it seemed like Obama was almost purposely neglectful with several missteps towards eastern europe and the dominant religion of the area without apology while Romney went on a tour in the region. It is completely bizarre to me that you would abandon a group that really is inclined to vote in your direction.

The other bizarre political reality to me is the lack of synergy between the white and black evangelical vote. Now, obviously this election is unique but generally, there is a huge portion of the african american vote that is both religious and conservative. It would seem to me like a synergy would be easy to achieve.

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No, it should be a federal issue to say that gay people and women aren't second-class citizens.



Or you could say there are lots of anti discrimination laws on the books and the constitution says that they are not second class citizens. I do not understand why the feds in elections promise any of these ancillary things like more protections? They simply need to let this stuff work through courts. Ultimately, even a conservative supreme court can't rule against equal protection for all.

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