But, Matt Flynn looked like a Pro Bowler when he ran that offense, and he can't even land a starting job in Seattle.

For one game he looked awesome. And last year's offense isn't this year's offense.

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Cutler's inconsistency plus the porous offensive line have been the problems this year. But despite the numbers so far this season, I would much rather take my chances for the rest of this year and in potential playoff games with Cutler, rather than the QBs on the teams you mentioned, or with Grossman or Orton.

If one wants to argue that you can't trust Cutler to perform at a high level going into a given game, I won't debate that. But the other QB's being mentioned WON'T perform at a high level in ANY game.

The inconsistency is why he's not elite status. But, even when the trade was made, it was discussed that Cutler was barely a top 10 QB, if not right outside that. The question still is, what other QB has been available that would put the Bears in a better position to win a Superbowl in the last four years? It took two mid-first-round picks to get young, legit QB, which more than half the teams in the league don't have. That is far preferable to going to battle every week with a Henne or an Orton or a Sanchez or a Cassel.

This has been said before. So far it doesn't seem to be true.

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There are 5-10 QB's who are outperforming Cutler that either came into the league or switched teams since the trade.

I don't think it would be that hard to find a QB who could throw for 200 yards a game, 1.3 tds a game, and 1.1 interceptions a game. I bet Russel Wilson could be doing that right now, and that is what is concerning considering Cutler is in his "prime" right now and will want big money soon.

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I think as long as Briggs and Peppers are healthy, the Bears defense will be fine for the next 2-3 years.

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He had at least one other great game, in NE didn't he? Almost upset Tom Brady in his own house? And yes, you can get into the nuances whether the GB offense isn't as good as last year, but, when discussing Cutler, nuances are called excuses.




Which QBs are you talking about - you can't count guys like Luck and RGIII, as they required a top 2 pick and thus a 1 or 2 win season to get there.




Well, I'll let Seattle roll the dice with Wilson. Maybe it'll work out great, we'll see. For every Wilson that wins some games, there's a dozen other Wilsons that are busts.

That's why I was vague. If you don't want to count RGIII, Newton, and Luck you still have Peyton, Wilson, Dalton, and Palmer, along with more borderline cases of Hasselback, Ponder, and Locker.

To put it another way, most teams have been able to find QB's to put up similar numbers to Cutler.
He could be really good though. Cutler has likely peaked given his age and experience.

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I'd much rather have Cutler over Palmer, and it's not close. Chicago has clearly gotten a much better ROI for their QB trade than Oakland did for theirs.

I would add Josh Freeman to your list though.

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I'm not saying who I'd rather have. I'm saying who is performing better than Cutler.

I doubt Palmer would be putting up significantly worse numbers than Cutler.

I just get tired of hearing how it's hard to find QB's. It's not. It's hard to find elite QB's. The Bears could find another person to put up Cutler numbers.

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Numbers can be deceiving, though. Cutler's... numbers... are down, right now, but they could go up. Some of the other guys you listed, their numbers are their numbers. They are consistent, whereas Cutler (to his discredit) has hot streaks and bad streaks.

There's a flipside, too, to having a great defense. Having great field position limits the number of yards you can accumulate. I actually think Cutler had a great game on Sunday, and 188 yards clearly under-represents that (not to mention that if two balls that hit Marshall's hands were caught, would change the 188-1-1 to about 245-2-0).

Im just glad that no other quarterbacks have receivers who drop passes, just the Bears.

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You sure about that? How many QBs have they had in their history that have been able to do that?

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Um, ok. I agree. Cutler may play better at some point.
If, if, if.

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The whole game has changed. Andy Dalton would be on pace for the greatest QB in Bears history too.

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This is a valid point. I criticize Cutler's play on here every chance I get, but even I would admit that there's no way there are 24 QBs in the NFL better than him. It just doesn't pass the eye test. Carson Palmer has better numbers than Jay pretty much across the board this season, and there's no way I would take him over Jay right now to win a game.

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Of course. We aren't talking about ability. We are talking about production.

I think Palmer could match Cutler's production with the Bears this year.

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Disagree. Charlie Batch started for the Steelers this past week.

Edit; Brady Quinn and Chad Henne also started

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So what? All you said was that you get sick of hearing about how QB's are hard to find, and we have those retreads starting in the NFL on the same Sunday. Just goes to show that QBs are not that easy to find.

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I thought it was pretty clear I meant starting QB's. I guess not...

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I think it shows that backup QBs are not easy to find.

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His numbers really only have one way to go. When you're last in the league it doesn't get much worse. Considering he's only had 4 games with 300 yards in the past 44 I seriously doubt we'll see him light up the board. He just doesn't do it.

Every drive doesn't start off a turnover. Reality is he struggles with good and bad field position. If field was hurting his passing yards why doesn't he have more passing touchdowns? The defense has almost scored more TD's than he thrown. Besides he's never shown he can put together long touchdown drives.

Cutler is better but Henne has been solid the last 2 weeks and Charlie Batch has been a good backup most of his career.

Which kinda means that QBs in general can be hard to find.

Is KC going to take a QB this year with their #1 draft pick? I doubt it, because there isn't one out there to take.

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I could agree with that if he didn't have basically the same QB rating every year for seven years, with multiple teams, multiple coaches, and various players.

I think we can agree his issue is consistency. I'd bet his standard deviation across games (heck, even within most games) is higher than most other QBs. He can be anywhere from a Rex-like 20 to a Brady-like 130, whereas some QBs don't have that ceiling.

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