That's the one good thing about having this bad offensive line for the McCaskey's. They will extend him during the off season. He's got one more year left on his current deal.

Now, when I say cheap, I mean he won't get Eli, Peyton and Drew Brees money. Which is basically around 20 million a year (I'm talking avearage yearly salary. I know they have signing and roster bonuses. So the base salary isn't always 20 million for every year of the contract.) Brees and Peyton Manning basically got 20 million per year.

Cuz, like many of you have pointed out, his actual numbers are middle of the pack. So if they fix the offensive line in the coming years, he's gonna prove to be a great bargin.

Aaron Rodgers will be resigned in the off season too. He's gonna be the new high man. Probably 22 million per on average.

I thought he had a career ending neck injury.....

a great bargain in the coming years? The guy is approaching 30. The Bears are more likely to realize a decline rather than an improvement if that contract is 5+ years.

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QBs can go into their late 30s at a high level. Look at Favre and Manning, just to name a couple. Not that I'm comparing Cutler to those two. But even a guy like Rich Gannon took the Raiders to a Super Bowl in his late 30s.

Exactly. Do they really want to lock themselves into 5 more years of this type of production? Give him next year to show improvement and franchise him if you need to the year after. By then, he'll likely be done especially with how often he gets injured now.

Also, Cutler isn't coming cheap. Of course he won't get what Brees got or what Rodgers will get, but that's because he's not close to either of them. He's still going to get overpaid by someone.

I still think Cutler is look at $13 million a year to start, with some team likely overpaying for him if it comes to that. It may take $15 million a year for Cutler to sign.

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Jeff George only had 1 decent year after turning 30. Since they are the same player I would expect Emery to completely ignore this statistical parallel and sign him to a huge long term contract with a massive signing bonus.

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I'm saying age isn't a problem. A five year deal at 30 is fine. If he doesn't get hurt, he'll be the same player at 30 as he will at 35. QBs aren't like RBs.

Also, contracts aren't guarenteed in the NFL. So don't worry about the length. If he's healthy it will be a bargin. I consider 13 million a bargin. That's my point, Rick. So lock him up for 5 years and cut him in year 3 if he's injured. Structure it so the salary cap hit isn't bad after year 3. If he's healthy it will end up being a bargin.

I guess this is simply me liking him and GD and BR not liking him.

BY POSTING THAT GIF HE IS SAYING TO THE WORLD THAT YOU ARE BACKPEDALING.

Seriously?
What about his history suggests he will go 5 years without injury?

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The elite ones can. Cutler isn't elite.
$13 million isn't a bargain when you can get the same production out of a younger player.

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What are these injuries? Concusions can happen to anybody. He broke his thumb trying to make a tackle. Fluke. He had a knee injury cuz the guy went low. Shit, this stuff can happen to anybody. Tom Brady blew out his knee and missed a season. Brees had a serious shoulder injury that many thought would end his career. Brees just got locked up for 6 years and he's older than Culter. It's football. Everybody is injury prone. Cutler isn't brittle, if that's what you're saying. He takes a lot of hits and gets up.

If you're worried about injuries, nobody should be signed.

He's also one of the most accurate passers in history.

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Yes. I know he's better than Cutler. You missed my point.

1. Elite QBs are the same at 30 and 35. Good ones are the same at 30 and 35. Average ones are the same at 30 and 35. I think Cutler is good and could be elite with an average offensive line. I'm not even asking for a great line.

2. Oh. Ok. Get the same production from a younger QB for less money? Brilliant!!! Why didn't I think of that? WHERE ARE WE GONNA GET THAT GUY? Where is he? We'll be drafting in the late 20s. All the young studs in the NFL will be locked up by their current teams. Where is this young QB of which you speak? How are we gonna get him?

This really isn't true. Most non-elite QB's become backups past 32.

Trade up or roll with an Andy Dalton/Russell Wilson type.

Why do you think it's going to be impossible for the Bears to find a quarterback who can put up production equal to Christian Ponder?

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1. They might become backups, but that's not what I was saying. You said only the elite are the same at 30 and 35. My point is, no matter the skill level, if you don't have a serious injury, you're the same at those ages no matter your skill level.

2. I don't want a Russell Wilson or Andy Dalton type. I want a Jay Cutler type. Since we have the actual Jay Cutler, I say keep him. 30 years old is young for QBs.

Look, I like Jay Cutler. You guys don't. I won't convince you otherwise.

Bottome line is the Bears will resign him in the offseason. There is no doubt about that. It will be a 4 or 5 year extension.

Name the starting qb's from day one who were 32 or older. Almost all of them were elite.
What is a Jay Cutler type?
That would be a big mistake.

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I don't know that he'll stay here. I wouldn't unless they tamper and sign Clady or Long.

Here is the list:
Brady
Brees
Peyton
Romo(32)
Schaub(32)
Vick(32)
Palmer(32)

All but Romo and Palmer have put up elite numbers in multiple years, and even Romo has 3 borderline elite seasons.

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I don't want to overpay for him either, somebody will, the Bears will lose him, I think. This makes me very sad.

No, Spaulding. Don't worry about that. Keep in mind, he's got one year left on his current deal. Bears have "Franchise Tag" leverage on him after next year. They won't over pay. It will be a fair deal. Cutler will want to sign in the offseason knowing his concussion issues. He'll want the guarenteed signing bonus money knowing that he could get a career ending injury next year.

Tag him after next year and then tell him to take a hike after 2014.

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That'd be business but that'd be crappy.

Beardown... not being at "fault" for being injury prone isn't the point...
it's the cumulative effect of the injuries, plus the propensity of injury.
Cutler is a long term risk.

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Cumulative effect? Propensity of injury? What the hell does that mean? He broke his thumb on a fluke play. He's fine now. That doesn't mean he's more or less likely to get any other injury at a greater frequency compared to any other QB in the NFL.

I mean, it sounds good to say stuff like that, but it really makes no sense.

It means the Bears can't keep a QB healthy. It means that Cutler has had several concussions. They accumulate over time. See Troy Aikman. Minus the penis love, of course.

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Concussions are an issue for all players. But you can't control them. RG3 got one in his rookie year. He might get another one this year. He'll probably get one or two next year. Then what do the Redskins do? Dump him? I just don't know what you're saying, Darkside. Yeah, the game is a bitch. Players could get hurt. I get that.

Cutler got his last concussion in the Giants game 2 years ago. He was in the pocket. The one a couple of weeks ago was a cheap shot while he was throwing the ball. Shit happens.

Huh? you either miss games or you don't, and Cutler has shown to miss too many as a Bear..no way resign this guy...Draft his replacement ...Just like Forte was a dumb signing.

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