You are probably right about the Bears throwing him a new deal...that is how the Bears operate..foolishly..that is why they have not win shit in 28 years....they overpaid for him once and will probably do so again..Lovie/Cutler will never win a super bowl...Denver days are long gone..I only judge what he does here..and it is average ..nothing more.The bears are 31st in passing and have a good record because the defense has been scoring and forcing turnovers.

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That's actually exactly why he'll sign. Get the quick money instead of risking another year with a bad line. Signing bonus will be 15 -20 million. That's guarenteed, Spaulding.

If he doesn't want to sign, he wont have to sign. The franchise tag wont scare him. All he has to do is pull the same shit here as he did in Denver. Teams can afford any guy on the team to holdout except the QB. If he holds out and demands to be traded, he will be traded.

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Right. But he has one year left on his current deal. Franchise option isn't until next offseason.

Look, Bears are winning. If they weren't, I could see him crying and wanting out. But they got him Marshall, his buddy. Lovie is a push over. Cutler has been able to fire 2 offensive coordiantors. They put up with his attitude and defend him all the time. Hell, Lovie benched DJ Moore for ripping on Cutler. Trust me, Cutler likes it here. He knows it could be worse else where.

Let's take the Nate Silver approach, and assign some probabilities.

15% no extension, Cutler leaves after 2013 via free agency
8% Cutler retires at end of contract
12% FavreFan scenario - Bears bait Cutler by refusing extension, Cutler demands trade, Bears oblige
15% No extension, Cutler is franchised in 2014
10% Bears and Cutler agree to 3-yr deal, $45 million
30% Bears and Cutler agree to 4-yr deal, $52 million
10% Bears and Cutler agree to 5-yr deal, $60 million

I think there's about an 80% chance that he signs an extension between 3-5 years, at about $14M/year. $25-30 million guaranteed.

I dont actually think there's a good chance at all that he demands a trade. I just think if he does, and parlays it with a holdout, the Bears will certainly trade him, and fairly quickly. There will be at least half a dozen suitors.

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Here's another aspect. Cutler is perceived as being a bitch. He demanded out of Denver. All of the other shit he gets - deserved or not. What's his value if he does it again by demanding a trade? How many teams will be turned off by that if they're not turned off by him now. You better believe his agent is telling him that. He's got it good here. He knows it. Yes, the line needs to get better, but lines could be bad else where. Hell, the only teams that would want him are bad teams. Teams with good QBs have no interest in him obviously. You people need to understand what I'm saying.

If you really look at the league, over half the teams want their current QB back next year. Seriously, go down that list. Be it stud vets or young guys that teams have invested in. There aren't many teams that want him anyway.

In fairness to us, you often make that very difficult.

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Well, I make sense more than anybody here would like to admit.

Dunno. I never thought the Bears would have gone for him. Somebody could suprise you.

So there are roughly 12-15 other teams looking for a QB. That's a lot of teams.

Let's look at the teams. Yes or no to Cutler

Lions - No
Vikings - Maybe
Packers - No
Redskins - No
Cowboys - No
Giants - No
Eagles - Yes
49ers - No
Cardinals - Yes
Seahawks - No
Rams - No
Broncos - No
Chargers - No
Chiefs - Yes
Raiders - Maybe
Jets - Yes
Patriots - No
Dolphins - No
Bills - No
Ravens - No
Browns - Maybe
Steelers - No
Bengals - No
Titans - Yes
Colts - No
Texans - No
Jaguars - Yes

That's 5 yes and 3 maybe. Plus look at those teams. Culter would rather be here. I win.

There would definitely be interest if he was on the trade block. Off the top of my head, Im sure the Chiefs, Jets, Cardinals, Browns, and Jaguars would be very interested. Also, Green Bay is looking to shore up their backup QB position with Matt Flynn gone.

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The Browns aren't a maybe. Their QB is a rookie who is already as old as Cutler, and he's terrible.

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I said maybe to the browns cuz he is a rookie. But they have a new GM so you're probably right.

Still, limited options and Cutler would take the Bears over all of them.

The point is that over 70% of the NFL wants their QBs back next year. The teams that don't, well...they suck. Way worse shape than the Bears. Get what I'm saying? Probably not. You guys just like to say stuff without thinking about it.

The Browns have been competitive in almost every game, and they have one of the 3 worst starting QBs in the league. They also have one of the best LT's in the game. They would be a 9-7/10-6 team if they were getting a top 15 QB. The Jets would also be a playoff team if they didn't have one of the worst QBs in the NFL. Same with the Cardinals, although their line is as bad as the Bears, if not worse. Teams that suck generally suck because they are getting terrible QB play.

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Fine. But that's speculation. Cutler knows the Bears are 8-3 right now. He knows they were 7-3 with him last year. That's a known known.

Plus Cleveland is a shitty town. Cutler doesn't want to go there over Chicago. And NY media would kill him worse than ours (Chicago isn't that bad, by the way. It's mostly national). Cutler doesn't want that.

You should just stick to the BB/race baiting ..football is not in your wheelhouse ...just because a team wins the game does not mean the QB played well or contributed much.

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I agree with your premise that Cutler is content in Chicago, but I think Jay has made it very clear he doesn't give a fuck what the media, or anybody, thinks about him.

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In the next game or two Cutler will become the Bears' #2 passer in terms of yardage. Let Sid Luckman keep the record.

You're the one that says team uniforms matter with injuries. That Denver health is different than Chicago health. You didn't realize that Culter is actually a durable QB. Don't tell me about anything ever again. You don't know stuff.

Alright. Goodnight everybody. I hope you all learned something.

Wrong again, When Cutler played for Shanahan and was rolled out doing bootlegs and throwing on the run in Denver..that is just not going to happen here..his pocket presence is awful ..he struggles to read defenses too.

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I will say this. Of the 8 teams that might need a QB next season, Cutler would be cool with a trade to the Titans. He lives in Tennesee in the offseason.

Except I'm not totally positive the Titans would want him since they invested in a first round QB last year. This was his first year being named the starter. He's been bad and hurt, but I don't know if that GM wants to give up on him quite this quick. Cuz that's a mark against a GM if you admit failing on a first round QB after only two years. That usually means you're fired.

At this point I don't even give a fuck. Let him go to another team and light it up. He came from a perfectly mediocre offense in Denver and made it the number #3 offense in the league. The reasons why that hasn't happened here, are institutional. Totally ingrained in a bad organization.

People in this town have no fucking clue. And I'd rather not hear the stupid shit anymore.

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Denver was so impressed with him they shipped him out as he was entering the prime of his career! Maybe he'll find that magic team with a great offensive line, great wr's, great rb's, genius coaching and Cutler will reach his destiny of being better than Christian Ponder.
Well, I can look at the numbers. I have some clue.

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Debatable.

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To take this in a slight different direction:

When the Cutler trade was made, all we heard was how you have to make this trade because you need an elite QB, an elite QB makes everyone better, you can't win in the NFL without an elite QB.

Now that Cutler is proving that he's not elite, and likely never will be, it's changed to "Well, we probably can't do better", "The players around him suck", "we may get him cheap" and the icing on the cake "all he does is win".

Ironically, the exact same rationale that sent Grossman and Orton out of town works for Cutler. I know he's been better than them but it's going to be a rough five more years for the Bears with an average QB. Now, maybe defense and special teams can carry them for 5 years, but they could do the same for a young QB who has a chance to be elite one day.

It really isn't the money with Cutler. It's another 5 years of this production, with a likelihood that he declines towards the end. There could be someone sitting on a college campus right now that is the Bears future elite QB. If Cutler isn't going to do it, then why delay the search more?

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Give me a fucking break.

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