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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:18 pm 
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Shaq. Not Shaw....fuck this phone :x

There's at least a dozen people on this board who have mentioned they regularly post from a phone. Im one of them. You're the only one who hasn't seemed to figure it out. It's really not that tough.


Maybe he's using a landline.

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Shaq. Not Shaw....fuck this phone :x

There's at least a dozen people on this board who have mentioned they regularly post from a phone. Im one of them. You're the only one who hasn't seemed to figure it out. It's really not that tough.


Maybe he's using a landline.

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Kobe's not a great defender anymore. His all-defense nominations are strictly reputation based, and pretty much every NBA writer i've read that has mentioned it has said it's a joke. I believe last season he ranked 18th, iirc, in PPP allowed. I dont know if Howard's back is hurting him or not, but he's been mostly a non-factor defensively this season.


Howard being bad is the biggest reason for the team being bad defensively. And while I agree Kobe is not great anymore, he is still good enough for them to not be as bad as they are right now.

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Some things are just known, like krause being forced to retire.even though everyone involved claimed health issues...Phil wanted to coach...he does not like Kobe,most people. Don't.

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Don't what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmoW6sGcwhU

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Like Kobe Bryant

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he does not like Kobe, most people don't.

FTFY, and that sounds like something you just sorta assumed or made up. I think more people like Kobe than dislike him at this point. Even Laker haters. I'm as critical of him as anyone on this board, but I like him.

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:lol: ...nice...lose @ home to Philly! I am loving this...team is about to self destruct,Howard's back still a problem,should have stuck with Bernie b.

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:lol: ...nice...lose @ home to Philly! I am loving this...team is about to self destruct,Howard's back still a problem,should have stuck with Bernie b.

I don't think keeping longtime assistant Bernie Bickerstaff would've worked either. These Lakers are old & very beatable. Besides, Mike D'Antoni teams don't play defense. Dwight Howard's contract drama in 3...2...1...


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Do the Bulls amnesty Boozer and attempt to sign Howard this offseason? Howard really has no where to go (that he wants to go, anyways).


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That whole trade was/is strange for the centers involved. Dwight with his back and seemingly imminent meltdown towards free agency.
Bynum, who hasn't played a minute for the Sixers.

And then there's Vucevic, who appears to be outshining both of them in Orlando.

Didn't Vucevic have 29 rebounds Monday in Orlando's OT loss to Miami? If he is, he might not have to deal with Joakim Noah tonight.


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Do the Bulls amnesty Boozer and attempt to sign Howard this offseason? Howard really has no where to go (that he wants to go, anyways).

BC, Dwight Howard wants nothing to do with Chicago. I think Howard ends up in Dallas if he doesn't sign an extension with the Lakers.


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Do the Bulls amnesty Boozer and attempt to sign Howard this offseason? Howard really has no where to go (that he wants to go, anyways).





I don't want Howard here, too flakey. Would love to see cousins here, thine will get him to fall in line.

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I wonder if Dwight Howard wouldn't want to go to the Clippers.

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I wonder if Dwight Howard wouldn't want to go to the Clippers.


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I wonder if Dwight Howard wouldn't want to go to the Clippers.


they have DeAndre Jordan

Howard's FT shooting would actually be an improvement for them.

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Miami beat them last night...Lakers are now 5 games under...lebron owns Kobe, I thought initially the Lakers would be a five or six seed...I don't see them even making the playoffs now.

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They kept a team under 100 so there is improvement. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: lakers
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This team is fucked. I thought they could make a late surge and grab a playoff spot, but I don't even see that happening now.
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MEMPHIS -- In order to move forward and turn around their disappointing season, the Los Angeles Lakers attempted to let go of their past frustrations with a team meeting Wednesday.

Prior to a shootaround in preparation for Wednesday night's game against the Memphis Grizzlies, coach Mike D'Antoni invited members of the Lakers to air their grievances, according to a team source.

Several players spoke up, including Steve Nash and Kobe Bryant, the 17-year veterans who make up the Lakers' backcourt.

Bryant asked Dwight Howard if he was bothered by playing alongside him, according to the Los Angeles Times, which first reported the meeting.

Bryant acknowledged he could be "hard to play with," according to the newspaper, and challenged Howard to speak up if he had a problem with it. Howard was "despondent" and did not offer much of a reply, according to a team source.

Howard, though, disputed the details of the story after Wednesday's game, a 106-93 loss to the Grizzlies in which he sat out the second half after re-aggravating a right shoulder injury.

"Whatever was said that (Bryant) said is not true," Howard said. "He never asked me if I liked playing with him. I will say that. He never asked me."

Howard then was asked if he was bothered by playing with Bryant.

"No, I'm not," Howard said. "It's something that we all got to learn. We got to learn how to play together."

After Wednesday's game, Bryant was asked if he "felt comfortable" with what he said during the team meeting. He responded, simply, "Yup."

While a coaching change and several injuries have contributed to the Lakers' 17-25 record at the season's halfway point, another major factor in their difficulties has been the lack of rhythm between Howard and Bryant.

Following the Lakers' 95-83 loss to the Chicago Bulls on Monday, Howard complained to reporters about getting only five shots, while Bryant was 7 of 22. Howard apologized for those comments after Wednesday's shootaround, calling them "immature."

One example of the rocky relationship between the two Western Conference All-Star starters, according to a league source, was a game this season when Howard harped to a teammate about the disparity between his and Bryant's shots while sitting on the bench. The teammate called Bryant over so Howard could tell it to Bryant's face, but the center refused to speak up. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Speaking before Wednesday's game, D'Antoni said he hoped the morning meeting helped.

"I hope it is (a positive thing)," the coach said. "That's the purpose of just trying to move forward, and hopefully it is. We'll see. We're in a rut right now, so the time to stand up, draw a line in the sand would be now.

"Obviously, our problems were the chemistry was not clicking. You try, 'OK, I'll push that guy, I'll pull that guy,' and you hope things overcome that and it didn't. It didn't. Now you get down to brass tactics and open your heart up and let everything be raw and see if we can solve some of the problems or the issues and just go forward."

Pau Gasol was disappointed the meeting was publicized.

"The meeting was a team thing," he said after Wednesday's game. "It was intended to stay that way. I'm not going to talk about what was said or what wasn't said. I think that's enough for us to talk about that we don't have to talk about what was said because I think it's something that should stay within the team and nothing should get leaked out in the first place.

"I don't know how that got out. When we have meetings, we should deal with our stuff as a family, as a group, and our family should be tight. If it's not tight, then there are cracks and the situation just keeps getting worse until at some point it will explode."

Added Nash: "I think it's good we got a chance to talk through it. Unfortunately, we come out tonight, we come out hard and then Dwight goes down and the meeting was for naught."

Lakers forward Antawn Jamison, who noted he has "seen it all" in his 15 years in the league, said this could be a make-or-break point for L.A.

"Now we're at the wall and we're going to find a way to help each other over that wall, or we're going to let the wall push us back even farther," Jamison said before Wednesday's loss.

D'Antoni said it's an issue of the entire team coming together.

"We've got an All-Star team out there," D'Antoni said before the game. "Have you ever watched an All-Star Game? It's God-awful because everybody gets the ball, they go 1-on-1 and then they play no defense. That's our team. That's us. We're an All-Star team and we haven't learned there's a pecking order. There's the one guy, the two guy, the three guy and the four guy. It might not be the same guy every night, but somebody has got to accept being the fourth guy. If you've been the first guy all your life, that's hard to accept. That's what happens in All-Star (Games) and that's what happened with us. Like I said, with today's meeting, hopefully we've overcome a little bit of that. I hope. We'll see."

Added Jamison: "Let's just have fun, man, and enjoy this journey and just pull for each other and realize that this is a special team. The first half of this season has been an embarrassment. We've been the laughingstock of the NBA. So, let's turn that embarrassment into one of the best stories in sports history and turn things around."

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That bold part does not surprise me one bit. Remember his interview last year when he was ripping on the Ron Jeremy-looking Stan Van Gundy? SVG came over, and Dwight suddenly became all buddy buddy with his coach.

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wow, Howard is a big pussy. shocking


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Give MJ this Laker roster at Kobe's age, he contends, maybe wins it all. Do not give Kobe a pass for 17-25. No leader. Makes no one better.


Not a fair assessment at all. MJ would rip Howard's head off in practice and their problem would be over.

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They're an old team. Unfortunately, ABC has their Sunday game vs. Oklahoma City in the second game of an NBA twinbill that starts with Heat/Celtics this weekend.

ABC is also scheduled to have the Lakers' rematch vs. the Bulls March 10th at Staples Center, too. Unless a certain #1 we all know is back in uniform for the Bulls, might ESPN/ABC pull the plug on what was supposed to be a marquee matchup? They might...


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Give MJ this Laker roster at Kobe's age, he contends, maybe wins it all. Do not give Kobe a pass for 17-25. No leader. Makes no one better.


Not a fair assessment at all. MJ would rip Howard's head off in practice and their problem would be over.


Yeah MJ doesn't win. But he probably mentally breaks Howard to the point he can't come back from.

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Yeah MJ doesn't win. But he probably mentally breaks Howard to the point he can't come back from.


MJ would probably punch him in practice and dunk on him.

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Give MJ this Laker roster at Kobe's age, he contends, maybe wins it all. Do not give Kobe a pass for 17-25. No leader. Makes no one better.


Not a fair assessment at all. MJ would rip Howard's head off in practice and their problem would be over.

Jordan never had the misfortune of playing for Mike Brown or Mike D'Antoni.

Phil Jackson could win with this Lakers team. It's not Kobe's fault. It's all on the front office.

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Jerry Buss's health is bad and it appears his son is trying to kill him by destroying his team. D'Antoni has continually proven that he's not a good coach (remember when you all wanted him to coach the Bulls?) and should be fired just for what he is doing with Gasol. All of this being said the Lakers will make the playoffs. As poorly as they've played they're still only 4 games out of the 8th spot. I wouldn't want to face this Lakers team in the playoffs. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict the Lakers will AT LEAST make it to the Western Conference Finals.


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It is simply amazing to me that an NBA coach could misuse Pau as badly has he has been since 2010. Anyone who looks at Pau and Earl Clark and then decides Clark should be the starter should be banned from the NBA for life. It's much more egregious than any violation Pete Rose ever committed.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and predict the Lakers will AT LEAST make it to the Western Conference Finals.

No way.

Even if they make the playoffs, which is a huge if, they will get thrashed by the Thunder or Spurs.

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