The same thing President Obama will do. Nothing.

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Who Is arguing for more guns leash?

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After thinking about this over the last few days this is pretty much where I come down. Sadly stuff like this is going to happen no matter what type of laws are passed.

I am not a gun guy per say, I do not own a guy and probably never will.

The problem is people. If we could just get rid of people this stuff would no longer happen.

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The status quo certainly leads to more guns.

um because the assumption is that you'd be attacked by a burglar breaking into your house, not by your own son ?

Companies that manufacture and sell guns, presumably. Gun manufacturers contribute millions of dollars to the NRA.

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On top of the dumb responses like "maybe we should take away food and toys because they've killed kids" I always hear gun control measures don't work. In fact if you look at the numbers in the cities like Chicago or DC the murders and violent crimes had gone down by over 50% in some cases since those laws were put into effect. I don't believe that those measures were solely responsible but they played a major role.

Who wants more gun sales? Who advocates more gun ownership as a response to every mass shooting? Have you listened to yourself or consumed any form of media? That answer should be easy. What's sad is once again an increase in guns sales is likely going to be the response to this tragedy. Why? Because a bunch of idiots believe that their $600 gun is going to protect them from their government. Because these same idiots would rather have 50 guns instead of having enough food to eat. Because idiots fall for one of the oldest sales tricks. Being told they may not be able to buy a gun every single year forces these idiots to go out and buy more guns. They're never told that their rights have actually increase (being able to carry guns on Metra).

If I can't shout "fire" into a crowded room then no one with the exception of military personnel should be able to carry military style weapons. There should be better background checks and training should be required to purchase certain guns if not all guns. If you need a training to drive then training should be required to own a gun. You shouldn't be able to purchase 20 guns in a year. You shouldn't be able to purchase a weapon without a license in every state. Gun shows shouldn't be an exception to this rule. There are many more common sense solutions that won't take away your rights.

We have the same people who are against the "collateral damage" of drone strikes and Afghanistan that takes the lives of innocent kids and terrorist but oppose any common sense solutions that may save the life of one 6 year old. That loss of life is well worth it to keep the laws just the way they are. That kind of logic really boils my blood.

That's simply not true.

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Correct.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010 ... olence-ban

"In the years following its ban, Washington did not generate a decline in gun murders. In fact, the number of killings rose by 156 percent — at a time when murders nationally increased by just 32 percent. For a while, the city vied regularly for the title of murder capital of America.

Chicago followed a similar course. In the decade after it outlawed handguns, murders jumped by 41 percent, compared with an 18 percent rise in the entire United States."

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I don't own nor do I want to own a gun.

I don't want the government to take away the guns of law abiding citizens.

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I don't own a gun but I think that we as a free society should allow ourselves to be disarmed. Hitler said the first step to establish control over a society is to take away their guns. The second amendment is there to allow the citizens to resist the government when ,sound familiar? Once we start giving up our Constitutional rights we are going in a dangerous direction.How come you guys on the left start screaming when they want to X-Ray you at the airport about your rights yet when it comes to something listen in the Constitution you are all for repealing it?
There are more guns per person in Israel and Sweden yet very little gun violence. Why,because they get taught how to handle and respect firearms. Unlike here where we glorify guns and gun violence.The problem is the mindset we have. Also as others have stated ,there are usually definite warning signs and behaviors that preceded events like this. Yet because of our indifference and hands off attitude to mental health issues nobody gives a shit about their neighbors and family and neighborhoods anymore.
For example the guy who stabbed the person on Michigan ave several weeks ago,over 60 arrests and obvious signs he was dangerous to society and himself. All he does is keep cycling in and out of county jail.He should instead be confined to a metal health facility until he is well enough to function,probably never. But no we spend money on other useless shit like flowerpots on street corners and cast iron railings.

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Really? Here is something besides fucking Wikipedia
http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/

According to those numbers it seems to be up

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Seriously, can we get all the people in favor of more mindless calls for "gun control" to just admit you don't want to actually study what the real underlying problems are, regardless of how few lives it will actually save?

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The Second Amendment says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

We're not abiding by the sacred words of the Founding Fathers. We're listening to activist judges legislate from the bench. And Lord knows how the right loves that.

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Seriously leash. 20 kids dead is statistically irrelevant. Liberal pussy.

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I don't know if gun control laws would help a great deal, but I certainly wouldn't begrudge people for exploring it in the wake of a mass murder of 20 children devastated an entire community.

People naturally gravitate toward gun control because it is low-hanging fruit. It is the easiest answer. It may not be the best solution, but it is discussed simply because they care and are horrified at what is happening in this country. DT, your responses to their points says a lot more about you than anyone you are teying to make look stipid.

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If it's part of a larger, more comprehensive solution - even an honest attempt, aka "give it the college try" - then that's completely different in my view. Never writing another gun law is not my point of contention .... not properly using the existing 22,000 or so on the books as well as not considering what other factors are in play, that's where I get extraordinarily indignant. Why that stance is so controversial is completely alien to me, and quite frankly I'm glad of it.

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Yes,they cook the books.
Did you know if someone is shot and does not die right away but a couple days later is not counted as a gun homicide?
You want to be clued in as to what is going on in Chicago and with the Police read this:
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

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That first story there is quite a thing.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

We may argue between ourselves, sometimes more acrimoniously than we should (including me), but I think there is one shared belief between pretty much all of us that has been re-affirmed in this thread: chas is a fucking idiot, and that's putting it as politely as possible.

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In this thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=149&t=72557&view=previous

you said:


So, according to your own thoughts, you just lost this discussion.

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Why because I think for myself and do not fall into line with the rest of you? That always seems to be the case ,anyone who does not follow the mob mentality around here is called idiot if not worse.
So please in your infinite wisdom tell me what I said that was so idiotic to you.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

See Chas, it's not just me.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Start with this:

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Mine is to ban assault rifles completely. Stop allowing the public to buy these rifles. If you have an assault rifle registered you have to give it up. If you don't you will be forced to. I've seen the goofballs saying "I would like to see them try and take my guns from me" and I just have to laugh at that. You're going to die over your guns? Brilliant plan on their part really.

I think our government needs to focus on more what's going on in our own backyard then what's going on around the world. Our country is in bad shape, not only financially but morally as well.

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"...forced to." - Good luck with that. It would be a complete waste of time and resources and ultimately be ineffective.

What of the unregistered assault rifles? Only criminals allowed to have those?

If you ban "assault" rifles than you have to ban and collect most hunting and sport rifles as well because there isn't much difference between them.

Yes I am.
Fuck you KS I really hate you right now.
Although the Packers helped my Redskins out!!!!!!!
So Ks anything to add or you jut gonna be a dick head like Chus?

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

So now one can contradict one thing I have said.
KS can I have your address I got a nice package to send to you bitch

So guns may be the instrument but it is how we as a people view and treat each other.
Yet none of you so called liberal touchy fely hippie fucks will admit to that,yet when I am pro -pot you all are cool with it got it.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

You should stop drinking again.

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