Reasons Ditka was a bad coach

Mini Ditka · **Joined:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:55 pm **Posts:** 3392

He was not a bad coach, but he was somewhat overrated because they won the Super Bowl. He certainly became a Chicago mythic folklore sports hero who has continued to milk one Super Bowl win for almost 30 years.

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:21 am

Mini Ditka wrote:

He was not a bad coach, but he was somewhat overrated because they won the Super Bowl. He certainly became a Chicago mythic folklore sports hero who has continued to milk one Super Bowl win for almost 30 years.

Damn. You've become an increasingly better poster since your return. Not necessarily good, but still better than awful.

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82235

Mini Ditka wrote:

He was not a bad coach, but he was somewhat overrated because they won the Super Bowl. He certainly became a Chicago mythic folklore sports hero who has continued to milk one Super Bowl win for almost 30 years.

I think people become fixated on the Super Bowl and post Super Bowl career. Ditka changed the twenty or so more year culture of a moribound organization. The team quickly and steadily increased in quality from the moment he took the position to the point that double digit wins and division titles were the standard by which to judge the success of a year. Expectations were not the same before and have not been the same since.

Hatchetman · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:25 am

good dolphin wrote:

I think people become fixated on the Super Bowl and post Super Bowl career. Ditka changed the twenty or so more year culture of a moribound organization. The team quickly and steadily increased in quality from the moment he took the position to the point that double digit wins and division titles were the standard by which to judge the success of a year. Expectations were not the same before and have not been the same since.

OH HO! We have someone who actually followed the Bears in the 70s and 80s and has a clue!

Gloopan Kuratz · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:44 am

President Ditka.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:01 am

Hatchetman wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I think people become fixated on the Super Bowl and post Super Bowl career. Ditka changed the twenty or so more year culture of a moribound organization. The team quickly and steadily increased in quality from the moment he took the position to the point that double digit wins and division titles were the standard by which to judge the success of a year. Expectations were not the same before and have not been the same since.

OH HO! We have someone who actually followed the Bears in the 70s and 80s and has a clue!

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=28084

Hatchetman · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:05 am

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=28084

Nicely done Dr. K. I must have been on hiatus when you started that thread.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:20 am

Hatchetman wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=28084

Nicely done Dr. K. I must have been on hiatus when you started that thread.

That was a long time ago in an NFL far, far away.

312player · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:50 am

I credit buddy Ryan with the success a bit more than ditka, the defense was outstanding ...while the offense was just o.k.

Agree with mini d not great but not awful.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:53 am

312player wrote:

I credit buddy Ryan with the success a bit more than ditka, the defense was outstanding ...while the offense was just o.k.

Just OK? They were best running football team in the NFL for nearly a decade.

What have they ever been good at offensively in the past 20 years?

SomeGuy · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:54 am

312player wrote:

I credit buddy Ryan with the success a bit more than ditka, the defense was outstanding ...while the offense was just o.k.

Agree with mini d not great but not awful.

It was more than just OK.

Ranked 2nd in overall offense according to Pro Football Reference.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1985/

Gloopan Kuratz · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:55 am

There is so much blasphamy here it is ridiculous.

Hatchetman · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:56 am

Wonder what Dick Stanfel would say to this group of O-linemen...

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:58 am

SomeGuy wrote:

312player wrote:

I credit buddy Ryan with the success a bit more than ditka, the defense was outstanding ...while the offense was just o.k.

Agree with mini d not great but not awful.

It was more than just OK.

Ranked 2nd in overall offense according to Pro Football Reference.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1985/

Take a closer look. Starting with 1983, Ditka's offense was never worse than 13th in the NFL. Top 10 in 6 out of 10 years.

312player · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:07 am

Payton is the g.o.a.t. IMO .... did not know they were ranked that high year in and out...always felt the d carried the team...

Krazy Ivan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:09 am

But how fast would Payton have been without those nitrouse boosters?

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43572

Krazy Ivan wrote:

But how fast would Payton have been without those nitrouse boosters?

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:18 am

312player wrote:

Payton is the g.o.a.t. IMO .... did not know they were ranked that high year in and out...always felt the d carried the team...

People always think that because the D was so great.

But they were an actual "Team" which is a novel concept these days when a head coach can apparently only care about one aspect of the game and be just fine.

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