Speaking of Romeo Crennel, the guy who looks like the dad on "Tyler Perry's House of Payne" & GM Scott Pioli are on their way out with the Kansas City Chiefs, according to published reports yesterday.

Football minds: where shall Scott Pioli rank among the worst GMs of the modern era? It's not enough that he turned the Chiefs into a total dumpster fire, but he also instilled the Patriots' bullshit pseudo-CIA culture of fear and loathing in what had theretofore been a pleasant family operation. You can't do that and have nothing to show for it.

NEVER
HIRE
ANOTHER
BELICHICK
UNDERLING
AGAIN

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Yeah Romeo Crenell is just completely overmatched and the Cassell contract is hilarious. It is actually pretty impressive that Belicheck managed to stay in playoff contention the year Brady was hurt with one of the worst full time starting QB's of the decade.

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That would be 2 failed HC jobs for Romeo Crennel. He struck out in Cleveland, just like Bill Belichick. Unlike Belichick, Crennel has now swung & missed in Kansas City after originally serving as an assistant for former HC Todd Haley, while Belichick is considered as a legend in New England. Interesting how Belichick guys do well in Foxborough, MA, but fall flat on their face elsewhere.

I think Belicheck is injecting their water supply with HGH

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It's not just in the NFL where Belichick assistants have flopped. How 'bout Charlie Weis? A miserable failure head coaching at Notre Dame, and not faring much better after 1 season at Kansas.

And he has a front butt

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He may have lost a lot at Notre Dame, but at least Charlie Weis limited his killing to "like a whole bag of Doritos in one sitting."

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Do you really like Romeo Crennell & Chan Gailey more than Chip Kelly or Chris Peterson?
4 or 5 of the NFL head coaches that I listed will never again have a head coaching position in the NFL.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

100% wrong.

For the record, you listed; Gailey, Smith, Crennel, Reid, Ryan, & Turner.

Andy Reid, Lovie Smith, Rex Ryan, and Norv Turner (maybe all of them) will all get head coaching positions again unless they choose to walk away from the game.

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I'll keep saying it until it happens, Lovie will coach the Cowboys.

Andy Reid might take a season or two "off", but for some reason I see him in Cleveland.

Norv Turner will destroy another organization, possibly the Bears, Eagles or Chiefs.

Ryan's had chance #1 w/ the Jests, but another organization will give him a chance, pinning his failures on the Jets organization. (SD, Philly?)

I'll take my chances on Norv never getting another head coaching gig. He has a losing record for his career! (Though, ironically, the reason he has so many losses is because he's able to keep failing at new jobs; most coaches who suck like Norv does stop getting hired. Not him!)

I wouldn't be surprised if this were it for Andy Reid, too.

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What coaches have failed with 2 teams and have gotten that 3rd chance?

It usually seems like teams give a guy a second change. Wanny had the Bears and Dolphins. Jauron had the Bears and Bills. Norv has had the Redskins and Chargers.

Lovie, Reid, and Rex will all get 2nd chances. But I don't think Norv will, I think this is his last shot. He will either be out of the league of an OC for the rest of his time.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Norv also failed with the Raiders. That's three! I can't think of who else has was fired from three teams. Schottenheimer, probably, but that's three firings over like a jillion years, and getting fired from the Chargers with a 14-2 record really shouldn't count.

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Yeah good call Norv has had 3 turns. Then I think he is really done for good.

Marty had 4 teams. Browns, Chiefs, Redskins, and Chargers.

I am sure there are other examples, just none that really came to mind.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Schottenheimer was a victim of the caprices of Danny Snyder, too, so that kinda shouldn't count either. Yet somehow it's telling that he's been out of the NFL since the Chargers fired him.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if no one hired Lovie as a head coach ever again. Yes, coaches get second chances, but what are you giving a second chance after nine years of exposure, exactly? That after nine seasons, he'll learn how to manage timeouts and challenges? That he won't have acrimonious relationships with subordinates who don't kiss his ass while the ones who do will be grossly incompetent? That he'll adopt a greater football philosophy beyond "my square pegs are so good that it doesn't matter how the hole is shaped"? We've seen loads of Lovie as head coach, defensive coordinator, personnel meddler (hi, Adam Archuleta and Orlando Pace), media manager, and there's not a whole hell of a lot there that can make you say he deserves a second chance. He's spent.

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I dunno about this. Unless I'm confusing you with another guy with a hilarious avatar, I believe you've spent the last few days wondering why the Bobcats don't hire one of the NBA's seemingly numberless Shepherds of Mediocrity. The NFL is at least as risk-averse as the NBA, so I have little doubt Lovie will be back, and probably sooner rather than later. He's a great Monday-Saturday coach who's beloved by his players. He's got three division titles and a conference title, and his winning percentage is equal to that of Tom Coughlin and better than that of both John Fox and Jeff Fisher. He's a soft-spoken, even-keeled guy who knows all the right platitudes to feed the media and will never shoot his mouth off or take videos of his wife's feet; to the stodgy old white guys that own NFL teams, that's just as important as anything else. And, though it shouldn't be, the fact that he's black also plays a factor, since it lets racist slime like Jerry Richardson tout the league's "commitment to diversity." The big pitfalls are the personnel thing and his inflexibility in re: his defensive system, but any team that has a strong GM and runs a base 4-3 (or is tearing down and rebuilding its defense from scratch) won't have to worry about it. I guess you could argue that he's clueless when it comes to clock management and in-game strategy, but I think a lot of that is just Bears fans being in-town stupid; Lovie's no worse in that department than Mikes McCarthy, Tomlin, and Smith, and no one's calling for them to be fired.

Minus the black thing, all of the above applies to Andy Reid, except he's got more division titles, a higher winning percentage, and excels at designing passing offense in a league that spends every summer amending its own rules to give us more of it. I'd be stunned if both of them are still unemployed in 2014.

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The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

But if there are these waves of college coaches ready to move up now that college offenses are okay in the NFL, something that isn't really happening in the NBA and probably never will, what motivation will a team have to hire a known commodity with very known flaws, one who will be more expensive than a first-time hire (the reason, remember, that Lovie got his job in the first place)? And which teams in the position to hire a new coach have the sort of veteran-heavy roster that Lovie needs to do his whole creepy surrogate dad thing? And who wants a defensive coach when defense is just what you're doing when you're not chucking the ball and drawing interference calls on every play? The parallel fads of new blood and high offense make it hard to justify paying top dollar for a stale Tampa 2 guy.

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I don't disagree with any of this, but I imagine 80% of NFL owners would. After a 4-12 house-cleaning, the last thing a boring old scold like Pat Bowlen wants is some brash college coach bringing his newfangled read options and pistol formations and internets into the National. Football. League. (It doesn't help that the most memorable college-to-NFL coaches include sleazoids like Saban and Petrino and flameouts like Spurrier.) A stale surrogate dad is exactly what they want, because what they want is A Football Man. For evidence, look no further than Messrs. Fox and Fisher. Or, if that's not enough, imagine the respective reactions of Billionaire Whisperer Dan Bernstein to the Bears hiring Chip Kelly and the Bears hiring, say, Jim Fassel.

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The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

Exactly. Why pay a boob $5.5 Million per year to go to the playoffs 3 times in 10 years? There are hundreds of coaches who could do that for $500K.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

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Wrong again, Scorehead. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... --nfl.html

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Sounds like chip Kelly is gone,he is interviewing with three teams.

Romeo crenell will never be a head coach in the NFL again.

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How is this wrong? Have 4 of these guys been hired & I missed it? Maybe you have difficulty with Math...or comprehension.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Patience, my dear meatball. At least 4 of the guys you listed will coach again. You intially said "never", you didn't say wouldn't coach in 2013 or anything reasonable like that. No. You just took your own dumbass opinion, stated it as if it were a fact, and eventually you will be proved wrong.

But hey good job on Harbaugh!

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See ya!!

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So you predict that 4 of these slugs will be a head football coach in the NFL again? I'll spot you Ryan since he wasn't fired. I like my chances.

Gailey, Smith, Crennel, Reid, Turner, Ryan.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Gailey & Crennel are done as head coaches in the NFL. Turner might get another chance, but I don't think so.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

SH in your initial post you listed 6 guys. You said, very emphatically, that "4 or 5" will never be a head coach again. 1 is already hired. Certainly of the guys you listed-- Gailey, Lovie, Crennel, Reid, Ryan, & Turner-- at least 1 more of them will end up being a head coach again.

You aren't going to backtrack and spew more bullshit here. You stated something that is going to end up being wrong. You should be used to that sort of thing.


Here is your OWN damn quote;

As I said earlier today in another thread, you would not come across as such an asshole or such a moron if you stated these things as opinion rather than spew them out as facts. You aren't Hub.

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But what if he is!