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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:45 pm 
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You need to listen to the thing and make your own judgements. He started out strong saying why he fired Lovie:
1. 5/6 playoff misses
2. Offenses continually sucked.

later on he went on a whole litany of characteristics he will look for in a new coach. one of them was being good with the media and well representing the Bears organization.

I don't think his media relations had anything to do with his being fired.

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Emery wants a high energy guy, someone to fire up the building.... ruh oh, we got dangerously close to DA FIRE AND DA PASHIN! Nooooo phil! Your Peter Davison-era "brainy specs" are better than meatballism! =D


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sinicalypse wrote:
Emery wants a high energy guy, someone to fire up the building.... ruh oh, we got dangerously close to DA FIRE AND DA PASHIN! Nooooo phil! Your Peter Davison-era "brainy specs" are better than meatballism! =D


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Thought i was the only one who caught this. He was the best doctor IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Phil Emery presser
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No one knows emery. This is his first real exposure. Sounds good but he could easily fuck up this coaching pick. Corporate types like to say "synergy" a lot when they mean "we have more guys who can tell you how to build championships than anyone who has actually bern involved in doing it." Synergy synergy synergy. He said it about twenty times. How about tackling tackling tackling. And get gutless qb on notice that a lot of starters in the nfl are found in later rounds. Start winning in spite of your surroundings instead of blaming others if you want to be highly paid. A qb with a great o-line and great receivers and great running backs is pretty much me.

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hootmon wrote:
Beebo wrote:
sinicalypse wrote:
Emery wants a high energy guy, someone to fire up the building.... ruh oh, we got dangerously close to DA FIRE AND DA PASHIN! Nooooo phil! Your Peter Davison-era "brainy specs" are better than meatballism! =D


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Thought i was the only one who caught this. He was the best doctor IMO.

He's chalk but c'mon Tom Baker owned it.

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tom baker was the recipient of hot timelord sex.... on and off set.

lalla ward was once asked what the scariest monster was during her time on doctor who.... she replied "tom baker" =D

suffice to say, tom didn't have to wave his sonic screwdriver all over the place to establish himself like the kids do nowadays... that's why he was the doctor whilst all these other dudes merely portray the doctor.

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No one knows emery. This is his first real exposure. Sounds good but he could easily fuck up this coaching pick. Corporate types like to say "synergy" a lot when they mean "we have more guys who can tell you how to build championships than anyone who has actually bern involved in doing it." Synergy synergy synergy. He said it about twenty times. How about tackling tackling tackling. And get gutless qb on notice that a lot of starters in the nfl are found in later rounds. Start winning in spite of your surroundings instead of blaming others if you want to be highly paid. A qb with a great o-line and great receivers and great running backs is pretty much me.

Kind of annoyed he trotted out that "better with the media" shit. I mean it's not a bad thing I guess, but if Lovie was better at it they wouldn't have made the playoffs more. It was probably better for Lovie to be a jerk to them as it cemented his "players coach" cred which was one of his strengths. Sure, ideally a coach could be both good with the media and a players coach, but ideally a coach could just do everything perfectly too.


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 Post subject: Re: Phil Emery presser
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Arrogant Hub alert. He is on the Score right now and just said he didn't listen to much of the Presser today. Are you kidding me? Said he already knows what he needs to know about Emery.

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Arrogant Hub alert. He is on the Score right now and just said he didn't listen to much of the Presser today. Are you kidding me? Said he already knows what he needs to know about Emery.


I will say this again, Hub is a Caller Bob. Even though he runs that shitty Football rag (who the fuck really reads that?) he knows nothing. He is nothing but an ass-kiss and should not be paid any mind whatsoever. He picked the fucking Chiefs to win the SB this year?

Blow it out your ass Hub you fucking 50 year old earring wearing douchetard.

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You need to listen to the thing and make your own judgements. He started out strong saying why he fired Lovie:
1. 5/6 playoff misses
2. Offenses continually sucked.

later on he went on a whole litany of characteristics he will look for in a new coach. one of them was being good with the media and well representing the Bears organization.

I don't think his media relations had anything to do with his being fired.


No organization wants its leaders to be confrontational with the media and its fans or customers. Companies pay good money to PR people for a reason. I think the Bears brass grew increasingly more and more uncomfortable with the douchbaggery from the coach and GM. So far Emery is winning.

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What did he say that was classless towards Lovie? I missed that.

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 Post subject: Re: Phil Emery presser
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My first thought today was "Holy Shit, those "new numbers" Sabremetrics guys have gotta be creaming their pants right now". Some cool insight on the scouting metrics I didn't know about. No doubt, the guy had his ducks lined up long before he stepped to the podium- I like his confidence. He's got a plan, I hope it works.


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Watched a good part of the presser around 7pm when Comcast sports net aired it and I was very impressed with Emery. No bullshit, no lies, no condescending nature.

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I thought phil was classless in his comments. You fired him and it's obvious without negative sniping the reasons for the firing. Keep it classy instead. You just fired a coach with a winning record, took team to super bowl, and had a 10-6 season. More importantly, Lovie has been a class act throughout his tenure. Let's not confuse candor with being a douchebag in treating a guy who is a good person and carried himself with dignity. This isn't Bobby Petrino that they just fired.

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After "a miramid of reasons" and "the fish in my fishbowl have fins," we kinda need both.

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hiram wrote:
I thought phil was classless in his comments. You fired him and it's obvious without negative sniping the reasons for the firing. Keep it classy instead. You just fired a coach with a winning record, took team to super bowl, and had a 10-6 season. More importantly, Lovie has been a class act throughout his tenure. Let's not confuse candor with being a douchebag in treating a guy who is a good person and carried himself with dignity. This isn't Bobby Petrino that they just fired.


The mistake that Emery made was he spent way too much time talking about Lovie & the justification to fire him. The proper way to handle it is thank him for his service & move on, 1 minute max. Other than that, it was very refreshing to hear a Chicago Bears GM who was prepared, thoughtful, honest, & who can put a sentence together without sounding like a dufus.

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It sounded like a guy who spent a lot of time knowing exactly what to say in these types of press conferences. That's not a bad thing. Many GM's don't do press conferences well.

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Sounded like a guy who had a month to think about what he was going to say.

And yeah, Hub. Still pumping that BS about how last draft was a Angelo draft. As if Emery knowing pretty much all of the scouting staff and having access to a computer and subsequent scouting reports wouldn't count towards him being able to run a draft on short notice.

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Agree with BRick and goodkat. Sounded like an actual GM. We'll see.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It sounded like a guy who spent a lot of time knowing exactly what to say in these types of press conferences. That's not a bad thing. Many GM's don't do press conferences well.


Didn't his discussion of the offensive line strike you as a bit bizarre? On the one hand, he praised Carimi's performance, favorably comparing him with a player from Baltimore who might've been another option for the Bears. On the other hand, he also lauded Jonathan Scott. The problem here is that he failed to mention that the only reason Scott was signed--off the scrap heat--was that Carimi and Webb were abysmal early in the season. Scott eventually took over at right tackle because Carimi was so bad, in fact, that Tice benched his pet #1 draft pick. Additionally, in his overall evaluation of the offensive line, Emery declined to discuss run blocking (at least from what I heard). This allowed him to claim that there was a negligible difference between the 49ers offensive line and the Bears. The problem here is that the 49ers are widely recognized as one of the best run-blocking lines in the league. This is what facilitates their passing game, especially in play-action. The Bears were a very poor run-blocking team for most of the season and thus failed miserably in their attempt to establish play-action. I think most NFL observers would agree that there is a significant gulf between the Bears offensive line and that of the 49ers; Emery's attempt to argue otherwise undermines his credibility.

There were other troubling aspects of the press conference--such as his almost robotic use of third-rate business school cliches (synergy, areas of excellence, etc), his wholehearted embrace of Cutler, and his outline for the way he's going to conduct his coaching search. But I thought Emery's analysis of the offensive line provided particularly dramatic evidence that he may not be able to think clearly about his team.

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Good post TM. You point out some clear contradictions and concerns.

I guess to put in it a more negative light, Emery sounded like a guy who had practiced a lot to say what the fans wanted to hear. It seems to have worked.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Good post TM. You point out some clear contradictions and concerns.

I guess to put in it a more negative light, Emery sounded like a guy who had practiced a lot to say what the fans wanted to hear. It seems to have worked.


There are some legitimate concerns pointed out. However it also shows that no matter what the man said/did there are going to be people pick it apart and be negative about it.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Good post TM. You point out some clear contradictions and concerns.

I guess to put in it a more negative light, Emery sounded like a guy who had practiced a lot to say what the fans wanted to hear. It seems to have worked.


There are some legitimate concerns pointed out. However it also shows that no matter what the man said/did there are going to be people pick it apart and be negative about it.


If you're referring to me, I disagree that I was "picking apart" Emery's statements. His assessment of the offensive line was glaring in its incoherence.

I am simply approaching his tenure as GM with what I think is an appropriate level of skepticism given his lack of pedigree and achievement in the NFL, and what has been several decades of poor leadership by the McCaskeys and Ted Phillips.

Maybe Emery will prove to be a great GM, maybe he won't. But I see no reason to assume that Emery will succeed given his moves thus far.

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