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maybe "his guy" is in the playoffs. and what happens if "his guy" says "no?" He has to have a backup plan.

"His guy", Hatchetman, will be in the NFL Playoffs. Who "his guy" is anyone's guess though.


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maybe "his guy" is in the playoffs. and what happens if "his guy" says "no?" He has to have a backup plan.


He's had a year to formulate a backup plan. Now isn't the time to do so.

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According to ESPN, the Cardinals have already targeted Andy Reid as their coach. Why shouldn't Emery be prepared to make his hire?


Because he wants to make the best hire, not the fastest one to pick up a retread.

If Emery had already targeted Reid people would be calling him a clueless idiot.


Emery has been in the NFL for over 20 years. If he doesn't know who he wants as coach by now, it may not just be his search process that is "slow."

Fans will likely be split on the coaching hire regardless of who it is.

But I don't find Emery's need to conduct research at this point of his career reassuring.

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Now, you're just being silly.


If you say so.

Have you been impressed by Emery's actions as GM thus far? I sure haven't. But only time will tell.

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I get what you are saying TM. I just think you are asking for a bit much. The press conference was yesterday. No team has made a hire yet, not even the Cards, even if they have targeted their guy. Now obviously if this thing drags on awhile then there are some problems.

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Have you been impressed by Emery's actions as GM thus far? I sure haven't. But only time will tell.


Too early. I'm not going to roast the guy yet.

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Have you been impressed by Emery's actions as GM thus far? I sure haven't. But only time will tell.


Too early. I'm not going to roast the guy yet.


I'm not roasting him, but I have my doubts about him after his first year.

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I get what you are saying TM. I just think you are asking for a bit much. The press conference was yesterday. No team has made a hire yet, not even the Cards, even if they have targeted their guy. Now obviously if this thing drags on awhile then there are some problems.


I'm not asking for a hire right now. I'm just surprised that the guy seems to be conducting a comprehensive coaching search now given that he's been waiting for this moment for much of his career.

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Just because he said that doesn't mean he is actually doing it.

The White Sox were supposedly doing the same thing after Ozzie left, and the powers that be probably knew before the World Series was even over that Ventura was going to be the guy. Emery may know who his guy is going to be.

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It's great to see we have a Bears insider here to go along with all the radio insiders that also post here.

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There are a dozen backs in the league an o.c. would take before forte, and one or two in the draft yearly.

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maybe "his guy" is in the playoffs. and what happens if "his guy" says "no?" He has to have a backup plan.


Emery already has interviews scheduled with "guys" in the playoffs--Clements and Armstrong are two that the Score has mentioned.

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It's great to see we have a Bears insider here to go along with all the radio insiders that also post here.


Who's claiming to be a Bears insider, douchebag?

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I get what you are saying TM. I just think you are asking for a bit much. The press conference was yesterday. No team has made a hire yet, not even the Cards, even if they have targeted their guy. Now obviously if this thing drags on awhile then there are some problems.


I'm not asking for a hire right now. I'm just surprised that the guy seems to be conducting a comprehensive coaching search now given that he's been waiting for this moment for much of his career.


This is a pretty big hire for a guy. I would think that even if he has a pretty good idea of who he would like to hire right now, he would want to make sure he does everything he can to verify that. This coaching selection is going to determine how people view the remainder of his time with the Bears.

Let me ask you this TM. You are in Emery's shoes. What would you be doing right now? What would you have been doing over the last year? Was he supposed to interview guys throughout the season so he would have a guy ready to go now?

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That would be funny if he fired Lovie and then went on vacation for two weeks.

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I get what you are saying TM. I just think you are asking for a bit much. The press conference was yesterday. No team has made a hire yet, not even the Cards, even if they have targeted their guy. Now obviously if this thing drags on awhile then there are some problems.


I'm not asking for a hire right now. I'm just surprised that the guy seems to be conducting a comprehensive coaching search now given that he's been waiting for this moment for much of his career.


This is a pretty big hire for a guy. I would think that even if he has a pretty good idea of who he would like to hire right now, he would want to make sure he does everything he can to verify that. This coaching selection is going to determine how people view the remainder of his time with the Bears.

Let me ask you this TM. You are in Emery's shoes. What would you be doing right now? What would you have been doing over the last year? Was he supposed to interview guys throughout the season so he would have a guy ready to go now?


Over the past year? I would be waiting to fire Lovie and replace him with the guy that I identified as my top coaching candidate based on my 20+ years of experience in the NFL.

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Over the past year? I would be waiting to fire Lovie and replace him with the guy that I identified as my top coaching candidate based on my 20+ years of experience in the NFL.


So you would be able to do that without conducting one interview? Fire Lovie on Monday. Hire your guy on Tuesday.

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Over the past year? I would be waiting to fire Lovie and replace him with the guy that I identified as my top coaching candidate based on my 20+ years of experience in the NFL.


So you would be able to do that without conducting one interview? Fire Lovie on Monday. Hire your guy on Tuesday.


When Kenny Williams hired Robin Ventura, he commented that he had been interviewing Ventura for the Sox managerial position for the past decade, but Ventura didn't know it. I would hope Emery has been operating in similar fashion. Sure you want to conduct formal interviews so you can be certain everything will work out to your liking. But if you're using the interview process to identify your lead candidate, you're probably in trouble. Based on what Emery has said, it seems to me he might be doing that. But as Frank said above, it's possible that he's not being honest.

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You cannot just say, Cutler is a coach killer in analyzing what would be an attraction. You have to put him in the perspective of what is present in the other open HC positions. Most of the open jobs are going to require heavy lifting and banking on QB prospects to develop. The Bears simply need a little tweaking in game planning and a couple of good OL to be a contender next year. There is talent at the skill positions on offense for this team.


If I were an "innovative" OC, I would rather have the draft pick that Cutler obtains in trade than Cutler. Forte is good at running screens and has quick feet that help him run outside. He lacks elite speed, though, so it's not like you can split him out at receiver. What role do you imagine for Forte that will dramatically change how he has thus far been used? I agree with Emery that he should be targeted more as a receiver, but increased usage will likely lead to further injury problems.


I guess I'm watching a different Forte. I think he is excellent when split out. It was not done enough under Martz and completely disappeared under Tice. I loved when they split him out wide, and threw the ball to him inside the 20.

I think Forte is every bit the back that Mc Coy is, if not better. I think he can be used in a similar manner. He may not have elite speed, but he sure seems difficult to touch in the open field. He should be getting 60-80 catches per year.

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There are a dozen backs in the league an o.c. would take before forte, and one or two in the draft yearly.


You are wrong but go ahead and list this dirty dozen and 1 rb from this year's draft

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I think it is clear that some players on this team get caught up in the BS - Forte being one of them. He looked like he did in previous years where he just looked lost at times.

Just like Cutler he will benefit from shit making sense. So will Bush in having a definable role.

And I'm still somewhat interested in seeing Hester under a new coach. As long as he isn't the constipating force he could be at times in the WR role. Actually bring him in to be a gimmick and forget the starter nonsense. Screw his feelings and if he doesn't like then cut or trade him. Trade him for the last pick in the draft.

I mean is he broken down to the point that he cannot get past ninety some-odd percent of the DBs in this league? Just tell him to run in a straight line and catch the ball or fuck off.

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I'm thinking I want my RB to get a 3rd and 2.

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Foster
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Peterson
gore
Lynch
MC coy
Rice
Jones drew
Charles
Sproles
spieller
Martin
Mcgahee
Turner
Jackson
There is 15...even if you knock off three, that is your dirty dozen.



Morris in last draft.

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312player wrote:
Foster
Johnson
Peterson
gore
Lynch
MC coy
Rice
Jones drew
Charles
Sproles
spieller
Martin
Mcgahee
Turner
Jackson
There is 15...even if you knock off three, that is your dirty dozen.



Morris in last draft.
McGahee, Turner, and Jackson are laughably wrong at this point. Turner isn't even the best RB on Atlanta at this point. Sproles is wrong too. He asked about this years draft. Hindsight with a guy like Morris is easy and pointless.

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Laughable? All three of those guys would get the ball before forte on 4 n short....mcgahee got hurt but was having better season than forte. Is Turner n Jackson done? Dunno...but both have had multiple Seasons that forte wont ever have. I think Jackson rebounds nicely next year....lattimore n Taylor will be very good ...would go to camp with either over forte n his fat contract. ...backs are a dime a dozen, not a position to invest $ in.

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Who the hell ranks RB based solely on 4th and short hypothetical production? Brandon Jacobs is better than LeSean McCoy in that situation too. And if you dont know if Turner is done, ask somebody who does.

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Nobody is judging anyone on one situation...but Turner gets in the endzone...forte don't...tds matter, n we will know soon if he is done...he is 30...could have another year in him. Lets see how he does in the playoffs.

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312player wrote:
Foster
Johnson
Peterson
gore
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MC coy
Rice
Jones drew
Charles
Sproles
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Martin
Mcgahee
Turner
Jackson
There is 15...even if you knock off three, that is your dirty dozen.



Morris in last draft.


You don't even believe in that list. You are all over the place with guys well past their prime, one year wonders and those who have yet to consistently produce. Hell, Jackson is contemplating retirement

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312player wrote:
Foster
Johnson
Peterson
gore
Lynch
MC coy
Rice
Jones drew
Charles
Sproles
spieller
Martin
Mcgahee
Turner
Jackson
There is 15...even if you knock off three, that is your dirty dozen.



Morris in last draft.


You don't even believe in that list. You are all over the place with guys well past their prime, one year wonders and those who have yet to consistently produce. Hell, Jackson is contemplating retirement

But you gotta admit, it's at least an entertaining list. The last three names made me laugh.

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