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Although i cant lie. I think Dr. King would feel like this today
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If you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time it's because you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time.

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If you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time it's because you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time.


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What are you talking about???.....I misrepresent what MLK spoke and stood for? ....please tell me where I am wrong.


When you called the guy Martin "Luthor" King Jr. That was very subtle.... A Lex Luthor dig, a slight disrespect by spelling his name wrong, or you're just not that smart/familiar/etc. Telling in any of the three ways there. incidentally, if you force google to search "Martin Luthor King Jr." this pops up on urbandictionary.com >> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... 0king%20jr.

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edit: lol, he did it again. i can't make this shit up.



Hey, I misspell from time to time :wink:

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Certainly a great American and one helluva orator. He did have his flaws however (as we all do) but one would certainly have to rate his "I have a dream speech" as Top 5 speeches in the 20th century if not in the nation's history.

I'd be curious however on his opinion of shutting down the nation's banks, markets, mail delivery etc. in his honor.

One can also make an argument that Jackie Robinson's impact was greater than MLK's.


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I went to school with Miss Pell.


Gotta include the name of the school and year....you know that!

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One can also make an argument that Jackie Robinson's impact was greater than MLK's.
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Hey, I misspell from time to time :wink:

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If Dr. King were alive today, he would be opposed to Affirmative Action because it judges people based on the color of their skin. It will be a great day when we no longer deny qualified people because they are not black. #Truth

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If Dr. King were alive today, he would be opposed to Affirmative Action because it judges people based on the color of their skin. It will be a great day when we no longer deny qualified people because they are not black. #Truth



It would be interesting to see how he would have felt about it. True equality would mean no affirmative action. There is a lot less affirmative action hiring going on today, as a result of class action lawsuits that resulted from the discriminatory nature of the practice. Unless he was a hypocrite, I would have to believe you are right.

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If you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time it's because you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time.


So you are saying he was one of the greatest Americans of all time....buy only if you are Black.....got it.

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If Dr. King were alive today, he would be opposed to Affirmative Action because it judges people based on the color of their skin. It will be a great day when we no longer deny qualified people because they are not black. #Truth



It would be interesting to see how he would have felt about it. True equality would mean no affirmative action. There is a lot less affirmative action hiring going on today, as a result of class action lawsuits that resulted from the discriminatory nature of the practice. Unless he was a hypocrite, I would have to believe you are right.


I believe, Dr. King was a man of his word. He would have been against this practice. Also, he would have an issue with gays being allowed to marry. #Truth

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If you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time it's because you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time.


So you are saying he was one of the greatest Americans of all time....buy only if you are Black.....got it.
That isn't what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that it's simply ignorance to what it is like to be a minority if you don't think MLK is one of the greatest of all time.

By the way, I'm aware that I don't really know what it is like either.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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If you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time it's because you are a white person and don't understand why MLK is one of the greatest Americans of all time.


So you are saying he was one of the greatest Americans of all time....buy only if you are Black.....got it.
That isn't what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that it's simply ignorance to what it is like to be a minority if you don't think MLK is one of the greatest of all time.

By the way, I'm aware that I don't really know what it is like either.



So if you don't know what it's like, what do you base your ascertion that MLK is one of the greatest men in American History on? Do you think he's above Lincoln, Washington, Franklin, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Edison, Ford, Einstein, Carnegie, or Truman? He never held a public office, created jobs, cured disease or invented things that made our lives better. He was simply a Pastor that cheated on his wife regularly and spoke about equality. And he chased after white women as well as black when he cheated on his wife, so he meant what he preached. He was just a very eloquent speaker that patterned himself after Ghandi to a great extent. I'll take the guys who built a country, industrialized a nation and led the country in times of peace and war over a guy that did a lot of talking and nothing more.

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Your misrepresentation of Lincoln and what he actually stood for is common, but still unfortunate.


Martin Luther King Jr is easily one of the top ten most important historical figures in the history of the US. And if you look at world history, his words and example are a lesson to many other continents also.

You also misrepresent what MLK Jr spoke and stood for. Listen to the speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEqnnklfYs



What are you talking about???.....I misrepresent what MLK spoke and stood for? I said he spoke about the equlity he wanted for himself and others. He wanted people to be judged not by the color of their skin, but the content of their charachter. Where am I wrong about him speaking about wanting equality. That was his main (and really only) goal.

As far as Lincoln is concerned....please tell me where I am wrong. Geez, I guess the books and recent movie were all wrong....

No-MLK was not top 10.




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d) Choose to believe the actual truth that Lincoln wasn't some great lover of African Americans
e) Understand you can't have anything but a DIVIDED nation when folks have the attitude that you are a proponent of here.

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One can also make an argument that Jackie Robinson's impact was greater than MLK's.
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Wow that's deep!?

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Yeah, I met Dr. Martin Luther King in 1962 in Memphis, Tennessee. I’m walkin’ down the street, mindin’ my own business, just walkin’ along, feelin’ good. I walk around a corner. A man walk up, hit me in my chest, right? I fall on the ground, right? And I look up, and it’s Dr. Martin Luther King! I said, ‘Dr. King!’ He said, ‘Whoops, I thought you was somebody else.’”

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Yeah, I met Dr. Martin Luther King in 1962 in Memphis, Tennessee. I’m walkin’ down the street, mindin’ my own business, just walkin’ along, feelin’ good. I walk around a corner. A man walk up, hit me in my chest, right? I fall on the ground, right? And I look up, and it’s Dr. Martin Luther King! I said, ‘Dr. King!’ He said, ‘Whoops, I thought you was somebody else.’”


Man, you lyin'. You ain't never met no Martin Luther the King.


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Yeah, I met Dr. Martin Luther King in 1962 in Memphis, Tennessee. I’m walkin’ down the street, mindin’ my own business, just walkin’ along, feelin’ good. I walk around a corner. A man walk up, hit me in my chest, right? I fall on the ground, right? And I look up, and it’s Dr. Martin Luther King! I said, ‘Dr. King!’ He said, ‘Whoops, I thought you was somebody else.’”


Man, you lyin'. You ain't never met no Martin Luther the King.


Yes he did.

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Yeah, I met Dr. Martin Luther King in 1962 in Memphis, Tennessee. I’m walkin’ down the street, mindin’ my own business, just walkin’ along, feelin’ good. I walk around a corner. A man walk up, hit me in my chest, right? I fall on the ground, right? And I look up, and it’s Dr. Martin Luther King! I said, ‘Dr. King!’ He said, ‘Whoops, I thought you was somebody else.’”


Man, you lyin'. You ain't never met no Martin Luther the King.


Yes he did.


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One can also make an argument that Jackie Robinson's impact was greater than MLK's.
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Wow that's deep!?

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The integration of sports (led by Robinson) was a huge factor in race relations. Just as the introduction of people like Sammy Davis Sidney Portier and Etta James were important. Having Negros become public figures was a huge change. How those individuals handled the opportunities they were afforded was crucial. Had Robinson lost his temper and gone after those that baited him whether from the stands, on the field or in his own clubhouse, the further integration of baseball would have been likely to be delayed. He blazed a path that changed the game forever. Having black public figures that people learned to respect and admire made blacks not just faceless entities, but people the public cared about. That was significant. Was Robinson as significant as MLK?....I don't think so. But cpguy just said an argument could be made and thats fair to say.

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Years ago we celebrated Lincoln's (Feb. 12th) and Washinton's (Also in February I believe) Birthdays. Then they condensed them and made it "Presidents Day" . Washington led the troops to victories that gave us the Freedom we enjoy today in this democratic nation. He also was of course our first President. pretty important historical figure. Abraham Lincoln was responsible for ending slavery while still keeping this country undivided. He is reguarded by many as the single best President in our nations history. Martin Luthor King never held any public office. Never was a President, a Govenor, a Congressman, Senator or even Mayor. He marched and spoke about the equality he wanted for himself and others of color. Thats all....The 2 men who had their birthbays celebrated seperately before this holiday was declared were both greater men in history by far. This is not to say that MLK was insignificant. He is certainly a significant figure in history. But to call him the greatest man in history is ridiculous.


Steve,once again you are wrong. Washington's win-loss was pretty fucked up.

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Years ago we celebrated Lincoln's (Feb. 12th) and Washinton's (Also in February I believe) Birthdays. Then they condensed them and made it "Presidents Day" . Washington led the troops to victories that gave us the Freedom we enjoy today in this democratic nation. He also was of course our first President. pretty important historical figure. Abraham Lincoln was responsible for ending slavery while still keeping this country undivided. He is reguarded by many as the single best President in our nations history. Martin Luthor King never held any public office. Never was a President, a Govenor, a Congressman, Senator or even Mayor. He marched and spoke about the equality he wanted for himself and others of color. Thats all....The 2 men who had their birthbays celebrated seperately before this holiday was declared were both greater men in history by far. This is not to say that MLK was insignificant. He is certainly a significant figure in history. But to call him the greatest man in history is ridiculous.


Steve,once again you are wrong. Washington's win-loss was pretty fucked up.



When were any won/loss stats brought up. He was the General of our army and First President....The "Father of our Country" (appologies to Shawn Kemp). I don't remember receiting any won/loss figures....this isn't a Cy Young vote we are talking about. I don't see how I am wrong about something I never even brought up. :roll:

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Would Dr. King be in favor of the affirmative action president?

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Steve,

Your misrepresentation of Lincoln and what he actually stood for is common, but still unfortunate.


Martin Luther King Jr is easily one of the top ten most important historical figures in the history of the US. And if you look at world history, his words and example are a lesson to many other continents also.

You also misrepresent what MLK Jr spoke and stood for. Listen to the speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEqnnklfYs



What are you talking about???.....I misrepresent what MLK spoke and stood for? I said he spoke about the equlity he wanted for himself and others. He wanted people to be judged not by the color of their skin, but the content of their charachter. Where am I wrong about him speaking about wanting equality. That was his main (and really only) goal.

As far as Lincoln is concerned....please tell me where I am wrong. Geez, I guess the books and recent movie were all wrong....

No-MLK was not top 10.




Take the time to read the

a) read the Emancipation Proclamation
b) Understand what is there
c) Read that Lincoln actually was for it
d) Choose to believe the actual truth that Lincoln wasn't some great lover of African Americans
e) Understand you can't have anything but a DIVIDED nation when folks have the attitude that you are a proponent of here.


The Emancipation Proclamation was a political tool to keep Great Britain and France from coming in on the side of the Confederates.
If you look at what Lincoln wanted to do with the freed slaves we would have a very different nation.African Americans should be thankful that he was not able to implement his policies.

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