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Might 670 The SCORE & ESPN Radio 1000 AM soon have some company in the sports talk radio business? According to my friend Larz at ChicagolandRadioandMedia.com, there's a possibility that the home of the Cubs, Blackhawks & Northwestern football & basketball might very well enter the sports talk radio business.

Now that 720 WGN Radio's parent company Tribune Company has exited bankruptcy, the media giant has made a pair of high-profile hires. The first of them was the hiring of longtime broadcast executive Peter Liguori as Tribune Company's new CEO. Liguori this week announced the hiring of NBC5 President & General Manager Larry Wert as President of Local Broadcasting. It's a fancy title meaning Wert will leave NBC5 after 15 years to oversee Tribune's 24 TV stations across America, as well as Tribune's lone radio property here.

What do these moves mean for WGN Radio? That part is hard to say, but there's speculation considering the long-term deals that WGN recently agreed to continue as the rights holder for Blackhawks hockey & Northwestern football/basketball, the popularity of its nighttime "Sports Night" show when the teams don't play, as well as the weekend show "Sports Central", one of the possible changes might be a full-time sports talk format for 720 AM.

Another sign of change at 'GN may have to do with the release of several on-air staffers & the firing of General Manager Tom Langmyer late last year in what some perceive as cost-cutting by the station. The moves might also be a smokescreen that WGN Radio might actually be up for sale, although that's far from a sure thing.

As for what else might be in store for WGN Radio, those possibilities can be read here:

http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/news/31 ... io-in-2013


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The format does not matter. If you keep breaking in with News,Weather,Farm Report every 11 minutes AND commercials,nobody will listen.

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I'm shocked it's taken this long for a 3rd sports talker in Chicago. Even the last place sports radio station in this city would make money. Go up and down the dial. Lots of garbage stations that don't make money. Why not try sports. It's actually the easiest programming. You always have some game to talk about. Plus somebody is always getting arrested. Arrests are good talk show topics.

Bernstein said the Score billed 24 million last year. I'd imagine ESPN 1000 was close to that. Even if WGN bills half of that in their first year as a sports station, that would be decent. They have the rights to the Cubs and Hawks. That would help their talk shows.


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I don't think we need a third sports station, and if WGN did go all-sports, it probably wouldn't be very good, anyway. The Dave Kaplan Ass-Kissing Revue, afternoons from 2 to 6! That said, WGN can't exactly go on as the AM1000 Retirement Home, either.

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Here are the top 10 billing stations in Chicago in 2011. I cant find 2012, but I have it somewhere.

The following are the Top 10 billing Chicago radio stations for 2011, a Chicagoland Radio & Media exclusive:
1. WBBM-AM/WCFS-FM (News/Sports) $48,000,000 -- CBS Radio
2. WTMX-FM (Hot AC) $36,000,000 -- Hubbard Broadcasting
3. WGN-AM (News/Talk/Sports) $35,500,000 -- Tribune Broadcasting
4. WOJO-FM (Mexican Regional) $24,000,000 -- Univision Radio
5. WUSN-FM (Country CHR) $22,000,000 -- CBS Radio
6. WVAZ-FM (Urban AC) $20,500,000 -- Clear Channel Communications
7. WGCI-FM (Urban) $18,700.000 -- Clear Channel Communications
8. WBBM-FM (CHR) $18,000,000 -- CBS Radio
9. WDRV-FM/WWDV-FM (Classic Rock) $16,100,000 -- Hubbard Broadcasting
10. WKSC-FM (CHR) $15,900,000 -- Clear Channel Communications

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WGN should just get back to doing Chicago-centric programming. Mike McConnell is the worst. The guy has no roots and it shows. He's just boilerplate flyover-state AM talk radio. Maybe their future is in competing with WBEZ with more of an arts/culture perspective on local happenings. Go get Rick Kogan back!

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WGN 720 has fallen hard since the 35 million in 2011. There shows are not highly rated anymore. I tried to do a google search for 2012 and I can't find it. Looks like they don't release that info until late March or early April based on the google results for past years of Chicago radio billing. All of the articles are from March and April.


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If WGN goes up for sale, Rickets or Reinsdorf should try to buy it if they are smart. Then they can make it all sports and basically have it be a 24 hour PR machine. You hand pick the hosts and make it clear that they are team shills. Ranger and Zack would gladly do it.


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Oh, it will be sold. It's just a matter of when and to whom. Most people think Hubbard is the front-runner, and that they'd offer the best stewardship, for whatever that's worth. I think most people like the idea of WGN more than the actual WGN. I gotta be honest, I hadn't listened to Extension 720 for almost a year.

It's kind of escaped this board, best I can tell, but my dad was complaining to me about how WLS turned the last hour of Roe and Roeper into sports talk. I checked it out and yep, sure enough, that's what it is, complete with co-host Lou Canellis, who has seemingly existed on the periphery of Chicago sports media for years now without ever having any specific talent or purpose. I agreed with my dad in thinking it's a pretty bad idea, but I reassured him that political talk is just sports talk for people who think they capital-letter Care (baldly ganked this from sinicalypse), and so it's only half the departure he thinks it is.

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It's not necessarily a slam dunk that 720 WGN will turn from a general talk into a sports talk radio station, but they've already got the foundation with the Cubs, Blackhawks & Northwestern football/basketball on their air for many years to come. It's one of the possibilities, as well as a possible sale of arguably one of the crown jewels of Chicago radio.

It's also not necessarily a news story about a rumored third sports talk radio station for Chicago either. Before Emmis Communications sold 97.9 The Loop & the former Q101 (now I101) to Merlin Media a couple years ago, there was speculation that the longtime Emmis boss, Jeff Smulyan, was in talks with White Sox/Bulls' Owner/Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf about converting one of the two Emmis properties at the time to become an FM sports talk station. The station would've featured Sox & Bulls' games on this outlet. However, those talks fell apart, supposedly because of costs, and it resulted in the Sox staying with 670 The SCORE & the Bulls staying with ESPN Radio 1000 for at least the next 5 years respectively. Financial terms for the Sox/WSCR & Bulls/WMVP deals weren't disclosed.

There was also talk about Merlin selling WIQI-FM (I101) late last year to Cumulus Media, parent company of 89 WLS-AM & 94.7 WLS-FM locally. Cumulus would supposedly convert 101.1 FM into Chicago's full time home of the new CBS Sports Radio Network. Cumulus, you see, happens to be a partner in the new CBS Sports Radio venture. A spokesperson for Merlin Media said that the company's 2 Chicago properties aren't for sale, and CBS Radio's efforts to convert one of their own underperforming FM outlets into a CBS Sports Radio outlet are currently on hold.


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If they had replaced my all-'90s-weekends i101 with Tiki Barber and Doug Gottlieb, they really would've heard it from me (and everyone else who liked B96 in 1994).

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Why would WGN switch anything if they billed 30 mil in 2012? That's 6 million more than The Score for you invalids keeping score at home.

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Why would WGN switch anything if they billed 30 mil in 2012? That's 6 million more than The Score for you invalids keeping score at home.

How much of that billing is from their sports properties?

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If they had replaced my all-'90s-weekends i101 with Tiki Barber and Doug Gottlieb, they really would've heard it from me (and everyone else who liked B96 in 1994).

CH, Tiki Barber & Doug Gottlieb aren't on CBS Sports Radio's weekend lineup. Amy Lawrence, who used to be at ESPN Radio, and was recently a guest on Laurence Holmes' nighttime SCORE prior to her debut on CBS Sports Radio, is among the talent airing on Saturdays & Sundays. Longtime New York & Philadelphia sports talker, the Wilford Brimley-looking Jody McDonald, along with Adam "The Bull" from Cleveland & another ex-ESPN Radio-er John Kincade from WCNN-AM in Atlanta, are among the hosts on the weekends on CBS Sports Radio from coast to coast.


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jimmypasta wrote:
Why would WGN switch anything if they billed 30 mil in 2012? That's 6 million more than The Score for you invalids keeping score at home.

How much of that billing is from their sports properties?

CH, that's a big reason why they might go all sports.


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If they had replaced my all-'90s-weekends i101 with Tiki Barber and Doug Gottlieb, they really would've heard it from me (and everyone else who liked B96 in 1994).

CH, Tiki Barber & Doug Gottlieb aren't on CBS Sports Radio's weekend lineup.

I know that, I'm just using i101's only redeeming feature as a synecdoche for the entire station.

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political talk is just sports talk for people who think they capital-letter Care (baldly ganked this from sinicalypse), and so it's only half the departure he thinks it is.


take it and run with it, my child (strictly in terms of messageboard/related posting. i can't be on the hook for child support here) --- seriously, if you're ever to take a proverbial step back from the phenomenon that is having a box in your room that lights up and takes the place of activity, you'll realize that politics is just a rather thorough dog and pony show whose purpose is to convince you, me, and the schmuck living next door to you that you have some sort of "a say" in how everything around you operates.

whenever you see the party CONventions for the presidental election you're subject to a barrage of images of the "hardcore" people, usually all button-toting and all going out of their way to show their allegiance to their tribe/party of choice, which is exactly what sports have (rather brilliantly, i might add) become over the last ~50 years (with particular emphasis on the last 20-30 years). this kind of stuff doesn't happen by accident, and it's amazing to see that sports crowds have gone from a group of people all wearing suits (and/or whatever the pervasive standard in fashion was at the time) to being all glammed up in officially-licensed-team-gear. it's truly pathetic from a philosophical sense if you stop and think about it (INSERT LOHO/HERB/ETC COSIGNED ARGUMENT ABOUT "GROWN-ASS-MEN" WEARING JERSEYS OF ANOTHER MAN)

but then again, that's kind of the point. when one of these trilateral bilderberg councils on foreign affairs thinktanks with a keen eye to social engineering met in the late 1800s, the idea was to build colosseums all over the world and encourage local/regional tribalism based around arbitrary corporate entities in the form of sports teams. the general idea was that as mass-production/distrobution/consumption rose up and eradicated the need for men to be hunters/gathers/providers en masse (in terms of tangible acquisition of food/goods, as obviously this need to provide was shifted to a strictly financial arena, which was greeted with the federal reserve in america circa 1913 or whatever and so on and so forth) they saw a need for something to step up and provide the men a sense of identity and outlet in order to stymie their natural tendencies that were about to be replaced by a more sedentary lifestyle.

you know, since you didn't have to grow/hunt your own food, you're going to need something to do every day. take that desire to hunt/kill/grow/create and channel it into arbitrary games which are promoted via the media and played in said colosseums, and hey, as the 1900s came and rolled onwards the birth of massmedia came to be and next thing you know the 80s show up hey its michael jordan and by the end of the 90s everyone wants to play dress up as their favorite athletes and show off something as arbitrary as their levels of "fandom" in order to have the perception of elevated standing in the fiefdom/tribe/fandom/etc.

the same thing applies to politics. when i walk through a supermarket veritably-stoned in my keanu-reeves-type "whoa" observations of how much food there must be pumping through the store, let alone the town/county/state/region/country/continent/hemisphere/world, and when i'm walking around during rush hour seeing all of the automobiles and trying to fathom how many gallons of gas must be used in all of these expensive cars chock full of things that are made in factories all over the world and whatnot, and like, you start to realize how EASY everything is to attain if you've got a nice arbitrary figure in a computer database or a rather nice collection of pieces of paper with pictures of dead guys on them; shit, it's truly laughable to think that you or me or anyone of our technically-meaningless-ilk have any sort of say in decisions that could affect this system around us.

we're heading to a veritably pre-destined fate, the only thing that has some level of variance is the details in exactly HOW we get there, or at what speed/pace... much like parity in sports, you gotta keep the two political parties going back and forth and seeimg to have dis/advantages at certain junctures (it's always about ratings, after all. you couldn't just go out and say that obama's gonna roll through the elections because of the current state of the social climate, you had to have an "OMFG OBAMA BLEW IT IN THIS DEBATE NOW ROMNEY'S AHEAD IN POLLS" monent or two in order to get people to tune in and watch the "coverage") i mean, really.... it's just a heaping helping of hooey, to use a phrase locally popularized by terry boers. there was an industrial revolution, semantically speaking, a couple'a/few hundred years ago.... who revolted? what did they want? what did they get?

they got everything. and while i'm not arguing about that, i will argue that when it comes down to it, you have no chance in the wake of the giant combine that is society, to use a term popularized in "one flew of the cuckoo's nest"

time to go listen to cuckoo by afx.

edit: added bonus, in the wake of the slow steady death of the great american huntsman, some people think that ADHD is basically the last gasp of the once-innate humanly urge to hunt and gather, which of course has been met head on by the pharmaceutical industry who decided to stick all of those multitaskers on speed and spaz 'em up into good sedentary office workers =D

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Sini,
You are a wonder to behold. I usually read all your posts and it amazes me your command of thoughts and words. I think what you are saying is we are all pawns who's alliances with political parties, sports teams doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. I have had the same thoughts about grocery stores. Feed the masses and keep their minds numb with electronic media. It seems to be working.

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Merci beaucoup.

Of course it's working; you have to ask yourself what people really want at their core, and by and large survival is hardwired into us as the thing to do. I'm not running around going SHEEPLE!! WAKE UP AND STOP "THEM" and rah rah rah. I know talking in the terms I do likely makes me seem like a messianically transcendental dinglebait (I like the odds that I'm the first life form in existence to use the phrase messianically transcendental dinglebait, BTW) but I'd be doing you a disservice if I came off like I don't like being able to waddle over to the store and buy whatever I want without sport, conflict, or resistance. I'd also be lying if I claimed I had a better solution to what's going on cuz like, most people need that be-lie-f that they have a "say" in what's going on in order to coexist in contemporary society. You need that illusion of "control" just like you need that illusion of "security" in order to sleep well at night, so in a vrandee sense c'est la vie smoke 'em if you got em.

It's just that in this day and age of constant feedback ad nauseum via "social" media (semantically speaking, can there be any other type of media?) I get sick of the riffraff going up and back like all this political shit matters. It doesn't, you don't, thank you next caller. People carry on like every presidential election is "the most important election of our lifetime" and you can see right through it like oh comeon I can see the marketing major's mouth flapping while the sound comes out of your mouth. Sleep easy: nobody will ever leave an IMPORTANT decision for you, me, or anyone we know to make. It's well above our pay grade. That said, while I understand WHY things are the way they are and furthermore why they gotta remain this way for the foreseeable future, still, just don't be so goddamn naive. Even if you make $5mil/year nobody gives a fuck what you think based on your merits alone.... when you bust out of the metaphorical game grid from tron money is completely immaterial. CONGRATS YOU'VE ARBITRARILY KIBDA WON A RIGGED GAME THAT YOU TECHNICALLY CAN'T WIN. Money isn't an object; it's a way of life. Once you transcend it to the point of it losing all value, people getting welfare won't matter. It's all those millionaires and bottom scraping billionaires that give the rich a bad name. Well that and ppl who turn their money ey vice into control vices.

So yeah, plz don't group me with the YOU ARE ALL SHEEP CLONES AND DRONES crowd. That's not my point; obviously 95% of everyone IS but that's besides the point. The last 10 years of economic shock and awe are due to those damn millionaires and insecure low level billionaires getting too greedy. Go wander a shopping mall and behold the vast expanse of money and ask yourself how can the system truly fail when we can create all this shit from sea to shining sea? PROTIP: it has to do nothing with welfare recipients or another 5% of tax revenue on your six figure salary. It has to do with too many financially empowered people seeing life as a game of marbles because they're bored since survival isn't a game to them anymore. And their sport of choice is politics as they play within the rules of the game (the law) and try to get your marbles if only cuz they wanna convince themselves that they still can.

So enjoy politics for what they are, sure, but know it's just as pointless as rooting for the Bears. I tell ppl this in the hopes that the truth alleviates their concerns and allows them to enjoy the show of life, as opposed to trying to save the world with a vote. I understood human subjugation and the need for it when I saw the championship celebration outside of the white house on the night bin laden aka Emmanuel Goldstein got killed. The world works for a reason, and as always, the truth is above my pay grade. I'm here for the show; you should be too.

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Interesting.

A turn to all-sports at WGN would likely see the return of Mike Murphy, pre and post Cubs games.


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Although WBBM/WCFS stood to benefit from political advertising in an election year, its bottom line may have been affected by the broadcast of three fewer Bears games in 2012 than in 2011.


Am I missing something? Do the games of the Jonathan Scott era not count or something?


EDIT oh, I guess the 2010 playoff run was in the 2011 calender year. That's 2 of the games they're talking about.


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Does this mark the end for Nick Digilio?

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I hate David Kaplan. If this move happened I could see this station signing up David Haugh for a cohosting gig in a heartbeat. He'd kiss Kaplan's ring and have no problem bowing down to the Father of the Year when it comes to having opinions, since any 8th grade honors student would likely have the remarkable perspective of a David Haugh. He'd LOVE the gig since the only way he can get on the Score is doing fill in duty on Hully and Manley, which has to be the equivalent of a Sports Talk Radio Dungeon. Shomer Shabbos!

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Sure wish someone saw this coming?

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I hate David Kaplan.


OH YEA !!!!! Totally agree on this one, Sini. Douchebag of the highest calling.


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Bigfan's misplaced question marks make me read his posts in the voice of a valley girl.

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