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What an awful Raw.

Happy birthday chas.

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That belt just got a page of heat. Now, I love it.

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New WWE Title I digg it #keepitclassy


FUCK YOU ALL I'M SOLD

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Very sad that after a strong PPV showing they follow it up with that.

And that belt is garbage. Does it come it with a bottle of spray tan and hair gel?

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Bo Diggity. No Doubt.

By the way, I'm again not convinced I'm not CrankyVince.

Cranky Vince ‏@CrankyVince
A GUY LIKE ME COULD SPEND $15,000 ON A NEW WWE TITLE, DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE AN ENORMOUS RUBBER SUPER BOWL NOVELTY RING. WHY NOT ME?

Cranky Vince ‏@CrankyVince
LOOK @HUGEWOLFDICK: I TOLD YOU! TAKER CAME LAST SUNDAY TO MEET WITH ME IN PERSON ABOUT NOT DOING MANIA. HE HASN'T CHANGED HIS MIND AND WON'T

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DUDE

I thought the same thing. That was freaky.

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I like the look of the new belt. I hated the spinner belt thing.

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I'll admit I like it better this way than with the stupid bulls on the side.

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I think it is just gaudy. And the spinner belt sucked too. Can't believe that was around 8 years - crazy.

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http://shop.wwe.com/

$450 it can be yours.


I actually kind of like it now.

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Next, the Divas title...

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I think what hurt the show, was having Cena coming out, then Punk coming out and making a match for next week to see who goes to Mania, should have had the match last night or ended the show with that part not started the show.

John Cena is terrible.

He's the best of whats left, but still bad.


Nowhere near the Rock's level


To even act like Cena Rock is some big deal offends me.

It offends me that you continually try to have opinions on this stuff without ever watching.

When is the last time you actually watched John Cena?

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I dont know, like a week ago.

Im sorry that wrestling peaked about 12 years ago, but that's just the truth


Since then the WWE has tried to convince its viewers that John Cena is the Rock and Edge is Shawn Michaels, but they arent. They are not close to that level.

I agree with you that wrestling peaked back then.

But that does not mean Cena is terrible. Cena is not terrible, far from it.

And please do not even try to tell me that Edge was terrible.

You never watching and having these strong opinions is silly. It is like someone saying they have not watched the Bulls since 1998, but having the opinion that D Rose sucks.

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Edge is a good wrestler and a decent personality. He should have peaked in the IC level.

I pay attention enough to have an opinion. I just dont make it a point to watch the shows every week.

Cena stands out in this era. If he was in either of the two golden ages, he would have been opening up ppv's with his matches if at all.

Just my opinion.

I disagree with both of those points.

Edge went from an excellent tag team wrestler to a great singles one. His heel character was ten times better than his face one though.

And Cena is Hulk Hogan. He appeals to the kids and sticks to doing his same routine in the ring.

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RPB I usually agree with most of your thoughts but to say John Cena would be a curtain jerker is just silly. There are 4 wrestlers that would be on the Mt Rushmore of WWE and that would be Rock,Cena,Austin,Hogan.

Taker might be the only one you could sub in there but he never carried the company like these 4 men did.


Edge was a great heel and for a long time there he was the star of the show.

You're wrong on this one.

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Well, I disagree.


Maybe Edge got better, but a long haired blonde athletic guy should have no problem rising to the top when Vince McMahon is in charge. And he didnt. For a long time. He's good.


Chris, I dont know what to say to the fact that you put Cena in the top 4.

And I dont care that Edge or Cena carried the show. That doesnt mean they were as good as the guys you are mentioning them with.

I mean, fucking Bret Hart was a main star for a long time.


I would agree with the other 3 you named though.

Hogan, Austin, Rock, Flair and then everyone else.

I never really considered Flair a WWE guy RPB.

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I'm just throwing this out there, what about Triple H in your 4.

Yeah, I was more doing a general wrestling one.

If it were WWE, Id leave it at the 3 and if I had to have a 4th it would be Macho Man

The 4th of E would have to be HBK.

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Oh yeah, definitely. Cant believe I forgot him.


Cena would not be in my top 10 regardless of how popular he is

Ok a modern era (20 years) mount rushmore of guys that carried the company and were the face of the company for years


Bret Hart
HBK
Cena
Stone Cold

The Rock was never really THE GUY. He had Stone Cold around for the most part of his career,who was much more popular than he was. Hogan falls into the past 20 years ago category. Like I said with Flair, I always considered him a WCW guy. HHH might be 5th on this list.

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Agreed, and good point about Rock. Stone Cold was the man when Rock was in his prime.

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