A month after the Father of her young children had killed himself, McCready committed suicide as well. She's had a string of problems with drugs/alcohol and her career that hit it's peak in the 90's had hit the skids because of those problems. But to leave behind 2 children, the youngest of which is just 10 months old is one hellava selfish act. I have no doubt that the suicide of her children's father probably had her depressed, but to ignore the needs of her 2 kids as she did and leave them without a single parent now.....really awful.

In case it matters....she died of a single gunshot wound.

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Kids are better off without her crazy ass, luckily she didn't take them with her.

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Roger Clemens is a jag off

i agree with the above two posts. at least now the kids have a chance at growing up in a better environment.

and clemens is a total assbag. "this is sad news"? thanks, roger!

Have you in your sanctimonious life ever had a family member or friend commit suicide? I guess not then. The people that do this act need help and sadly never get what they need because they take what y'all may call "The easy way out". Douchebagging some one for ending their life because there is a illness in their mind causing them to not think strait is what I call one really nice class act .


So, I salute you sir and your ilk for dbagging someone who struggled with life and caused more heartbreak for their family by doing what they did.

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I do feel bad for her -- a lot of stuff had gone on, and she obviously wasn't in the state of mind to rationally deal with any of that -- but she could have let the dog go at least.

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Yes I have. My Brother committed suicide. He took a bottle of secondal (sp?) along with a bottle of 151 proof Jamaican rum. It created more heartache for the rest of the family than can be articulated. He had gotten deeply involved with drugs, (Cocaine was his drug of choice) to the point where he stopped paying any bills and was evicted from his apartment. He lived with me and my ex-wife and daughter for a while, with the understanding that no drugs could ever be in the home. After about 2-3 months he violated that rule and I had to tell him to leave. He moved in with my Grandparents until they told him he was going to have to leave their home, because he had stolen from them. He could have gone elsewhere, but I think he was just so disappointed with himself and all the bad choices he had made that he decided to make 1 final bad choice. Getting his life on a better path was not going to be easy, but it could have been accomplished. Don't make baseless assumptions. I know more about this than I wish I did. We tried like hell to help my Brother, but like Mindy (who got help on several occassions after problems with drugs/alcohol and a previous suicide attempt) there was no desire on my Brothers part to change and take advantage of the help offered. Oh, and the word is spelled straight, not strait......unless you were trying to make a reference to George Strait and how people can't think like the Grammy winning country singer.

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Riiiight. Because did he get help or did that not fit into your plans? You passed him off to the next person, where was the intervention? Instead of kicking him out, why not kick his ass to rehab or a mental institution? Instead of giving rules that he had to follow how about being a human and getting him help? How about instead of saying don't do drugs you get him to a place where they are educated on how to help them get off and stay off the drugs? How about getting a doctor who knows how to treat him instead of hoping that while he sleeps on your couch to not do what he is prone to do? I mean it's like leaving a knife and flame thrower on the counter and tell a three year old not to touch it...why you ask? Because the kid will most likely not have the comprehension why not to, same as one with a mental issue/illness causing the depression. Saying they are chicken is just wrong because they are not in the right state of mind and you are essentially making fun of their mental capacity.

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Again, you speak from a position of ignorance. My Brother had no issues with mental capacity. He went to college for 3 years and was a sharp guy. He just liked getting high/drunk a lot. We did have interventions and he had a few stints in rehab. He was the oldest sibling (by 2 1/2 years) and 32 years old when all this happened. So it wasn't like he was some kid. He had lots of help and opportunities to make positive changes. But he always went back to the poison. After a while, I didn't really even feel like I knew him anymore. the Brother I grew up with was gone and only a shell of a human being was left. Where you get the chicken crap is a mystery. I just said he made what I believe he saw as an easier choice, rather than taking on a long hard road back to a better life. In so doing, he hurt a lot of people who cared about him and tried to help him over and over. As usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

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Sorry for your loss.

I too have seen substance abuse in my family, from someone who doesn't want to change, or accept the help they are offered, and spend every day hoping they don't do something to hurt themselves, or anyone else in the house. I will say it has caused a great divide between myself, fiancee, and my family with the person, but it's not like we don't care.

RNM: I don't see it as a position of pushing someone off. Rehab may not be the right answer for the individual. Unfortunately, the likes of a Dr Drew, and "professionals" of his ilk are not the answer for everyone. What Steve did by offering a space for his brother with the caveat of no drugs be brought into his house is commendable, given that he had a young child at home. Sometimes going cold turkey is the answer. A family shouldn't go broke putting someone through rehab if they don't want to follow the teachings...and how do we know those teachings are the right way to get through to them.

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Who the fuck are you to question & lecture Steve regarding what he should have done to help his Brother?
You should be DB'd...

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sjboyd0137 & Elmhurst Steve,
I'm sorry for your anguish & loss. I really would not know what to do in that situation. It's a very tough call on what may be the "right" move because everybody is different.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

This x 1000. Sometimes everything you try does not work and you have to move on and do what is best for your family and situation. Opened my home to one great friend and one family member. Did all we could. Some men you can not reach. One dead the other still walking wounded. If they will not accept they need to clean up they will not. Human nature at its worst.

Suicide sucks and blaming anyone for not helping the deceased enough is ill advised.

Steve put in more effort than most would. Ultimately, there is only so much you can do. If staying on his couch being watched wasn't able to cure him nothing will. It's quite commendable that he even gave him that chance.

I'll still never forget the car ride home where my mom told me my uncle was going to die. Even she had to give up eventually.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Sorry for your loss.

I too have seen substance abuse in my family, from someone who doesn't want to change, or accept the help they are offered, and spend every day hoping they don't do something to hurt themselves, or anyone else in the house. I will say it has caused a great divide between myself, fiancee, and my family with the person, but it's not like we don't care.
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While you want to help those you care for, you do not want to enable them, as doing so only allows their use/abuse of druge to continue. I did what I (actually the whole family) was told to do. Help but not enable. It was very difficult to tell my Brother he had to leave and after he ended his life, there were questions as to whether I had done the right thing. maybe if I had allowed him one more chance....but after more time passed, I felt certain that wasn't true. It wasn't just that he was using. The way I discovered there were drugs in the house was a tapping on the bedroom window where my Brother was staying in at about 2am. I looked out our bedroom window to see some guy making an exchange. My Brother sold drugs for a couple years mostly to support his own use, so I knew what was taking place. I couldn't risk my home, marriage and the safety and well being of my Daughter, so I did what I had to do. My ex-wife was not crazy about my Brother staying with us, but went along with it, as long as there were the conditions in place (no drug use, no selling of drugs and no drugs in the home EVER) and that he not stay more than 6 months (a reasonable amount of time to get yourself together and find a more permanent place to reside). You may be in a similar situation with your fiancee, where she does not see all the qualities this person might have, because the drug use has left them a shell of the person he/she once was. You hope they will be that person again and want to help them get there. She might not have the same faith and might think that the trouble they cause for you is not worthwhile. That walking away from that person and their problems would be the prudent thing to do. but you know thats not an easy thing to do. Knowing the right thing to do isn't easy and if the person doesn't want to change/take advantage of the help they are offered, the best thing to do (in my opinion) is simply not enable their addictions. I didn't lose my Brother the night he committed suicide really. I lost him years before that, when drugs took over his life.

By the way....he didn't stay on a couch. He had use of an extra bedroom. Again, where RNM came up with him staying on our couch, I have no idea. He had use of a bedroom.

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That's a weird way to put it.

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People gotta learn to forgive. They're only hurting themselves.

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I am sorry for your loss. Suicide is far more common then people realize.

Anger is an emotion often associated with a person that commits suicide. It's in response to feelings of long time anger that is not recognized and therefore unresolved. Or justifiable feelings of anger that go unresolved due to the denial of others.

There are a number of studies that have been done on addictions and their effect on the prefontal cortex in the brain. There are mental issues involved in most addictions.

Human beings are fragile by nature. In the most excellent way though. It's one of many things that separate us from the animals. This fact is hard to reconcile in the male dominated culture we live in. Especially when we combine that with the "self made man" pathos so prevalent in our culture.

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Seacrest very well written thought into words. It's like your a Jim Enright or something.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I empathize with anyone who has taken their life due to addiction/mental illness. I've tried it, i just didnt succeed. I had a good friend lay on the railroad tracks and allow a train to cut her in half. I never once thought she was a douchebag for this.

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Let's do it for Johnny!

I'm thankful that you were not successful.

I'm glad that you are still here.

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Thanks. That makes 2 of us.

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Let's do it for Johnny!

3!

I've known two people that killed themselves and selfish is probably the last word I'd use to describe what they did.

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Actually it isn't Matt. That describes my situation a lot. I always did well in school, its just that once I started drinking/drugging it took precedence over everything else in my life. But mental capacity and mental issues are two different things. I definitely had and to a lesser degree still have a lot of mental issues.

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I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out. - Bill Hicks

Let's do it for Johnny!

An addict usually doesn't like being an addict. I'm sure Steve's brother did like getting drunk/high, but once it destroyed his life, I'd wager he liked it a great deal less. The thing with addiction is that you can't stop, even after it's not fun anymore.

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The landowner effectively owns part shares in millions of part-time slaves called, "taxpayers." -Roy L
A Personal Relationship with Jesus?

True. I certainly didn't enjoy pawning everything I had, losing relationships, jobs, self respect, etc. just to get the next drink or drug. I'd be willing to bet it wasn't fun for Steve's brother at the end either. It probably could've been stated better. I chalk that up to Steve's ignorance more than anything.

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I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out. - Bill Hicks

Let's do it for Johnny!

edit: not worth it. sparkly clean hands says the guy was selfish.

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I can't wait until Tributsaurus literally becomes Mindy McCready.

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