I want to say, I appreciate you getting back to your board roots. The work from the last couple of months seemed like pandering.

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Patently untrue.

So you think that public schools offer a better education than private schools?

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Some absolutely do.

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Yes, some can without a doubt.

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Some of the best schools are public. If you said generally private vs public then maybe, but the way you phrased it, its completely false.

And I would not put homeschool in the conversation.

And why is that?

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Well, I have some of my own ideas about homeschooling, but I just think its too hard to assess homeschools in a general sense because its dependent upon each parent.

I agree.

Knowledge is knowledge but the skill of the teacher plays a role as well, generally speaking.

But once you hit the advanced stages of mathematics, physics etc. one would think you would need specialized instruction from competent instructors.

Yes. Just like there are bad public schools there are bad private schools. However, there is a reason why so many people who can afford private school choose to send kids to public schools. Now, in some areas a private school is a good way to avoid a bad public school, but that seems to mostly be a city thing. I don't see myself ever sending my kids to private school. Instead, I'll just make sure to pick an area to live in with good public schools. Save that money for college when it really matters. No one in college will care that your parents paid $15,000 a year to learn basic biology.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I know some really bright kids that have been home schooled. I think in the overall discussion it's like public and private schools. Some are real good, some not so much.

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Actually, some will care very much.

I know you fancy yourself omniscient, but that is a fact.

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Why would they care? I was never in a class where it mattered that I was taught in a public school. It takes about 1 week for freshman to learn that where you went to high school means very little.

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Because colleges and universities want diversity that encompasses all economic, social and racial lines.

They want kids that are private school and public school educated. This is true at the undergrad level, but was a subject of conversation with at least one grad school also.

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What does that even mean? Of course colleges want both. I don't see where I said that any college would not take a public or private school student.

That's like saying colleges want both men and women. Of course they do. They want the best students possible. Some of them will be men. Some of them will be women. They want the best students possible. Some of them will be private school students. Some of them will be public school students.

Once they get there, no one cares if you learned basic biology in public or private school. They just care you know it.

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It's real simple Brick:

They care and want kids from different backgrounds.

They want them to provide a diverity within a classroom setting.

They want them to share their different experiences and educational histories in order to provide what they hope will be a more complete educational experience for all.

In summation; If you have kids that are as intelligent as you, they are going to find that universities may or may not accept them based upon where they went to school. Regardless of what their grades and achievements are.

If I'm wrong, come back in 18 or so years and tell me.

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Another thing that is over rated is Honors classes. Colleges don't really care. What is considered honors level at one school, is regular at another.

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You aren't wrong because all you are saying is that colleges want all different kind of students. No one is going to argue that. I'm certainly not.

When my kid is sitting in his first class he doesn't have to worry that the person sitting next to him is about to get a standing ovation from the professor because he went to a private school. No one cares. With admissions, it can make some difference, but a good public school and a good private school provides the same bump.

Again, if you want to think that paying huge amounts of money gives your kid a leg up in getting into college go ahead. I predict the neighbor kids who go to a top ranked public school here do just as well when that time comes. If I'm wrong, well, I won't be wrong.

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No truer words have never been typed here by you BRick.

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Correct.

But AP classes can be quantified and every school we have had expereience with does this.

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Yep.

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Conns, I would be interested in hearing more from you on this. I know you are a educator and my son will be going in 9th grade next year and has qualified for all of them. He will also be playing 3 sports and I am very much in the middle about how I want to handle his academic load. When you get a chance please shoot me a PM with more of your thoughts on this please.

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If they pass the exam. I have had athletes who took AP classes and never got higher than a three on the tests. Not too many schools take 3s. Usually only fours and fives are accepted.

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That's what we liked about them.

Our daughter went in as a freshman at U of I with 21 credit hours in tow.

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I am not saying being in honors is bad, relative to the school your are going to it will be more challenging or at least should be. I am saying colleges don't really care. The AP classes are better, but if your kid at the end of the year only gets a 1 or 2 on the exam, it was almost a waste of time.

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My high school didn't have honors classes, which could have been nice since it raises your GPA because they are ranked on a 5-point scale rather than a 4 point scale. Instead, they offered "Enriched" classes, which basically gave you more difficult work without the advantage of being able to raise your GPA. Because of this, our school had about 10 valedictorians because they all tied with a 4.0 GPA. A few of those people were on the same level of intelligence as 312player. They never took a difficult class, and coasted to a perfect GPA. It might have been the dumbest school idea I have ever heard of. Maybe the dumbest since changing your child's school when they heard a classmate talk about something dirty.

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The honors classes here don't raised your GPA at all, if they did I would be more apt to send him into to them.

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I think biggest issue why private schools and homeschool is better is the simple concept of religious freedom and you have a somewhat better idea of who is teaching your kids. You don't have card carrying Democrats educating your kindergartener about why some little girl has two mommies or a high school teacher who is going to get your teenage daughter an abortion without telling you.

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