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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:03 pm 
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According to BMI many of the football players are obese and not just the offensive linemen.

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I agree, T-Bone. But I find it incredibly disturbing that so many communities in this country have cut school gym programs, recess, and playground budgets. One of the great joys of my youth was our daily softball and fastpitch games during recess or gym. Adults are not only making kids fatter--they're also making them less happy.
Unless things have changed in the many years since I enjoyed the pleasure of recess, the truly obese kids did not participate in recess sports and generally dreaded those required for gym class. Personally I always looked forward to gym but if the choice is dodgeball or science/geography/history etc then I would rather schools stick to book learnin'.

Except for extreme circumstances a kids health is the domain of the parents and their doctor (who should be the one to lay the hammer down if necessary).


I think you're presenting a false dicthotomy. Gym and recess are known to have positive effects on the mood and self-image of children; these benefits facilitate classroom learning. Not to mention that they also help settle kids down, another important factor in advancing academic progress. Physical and mental health are not antagonistic to one another; they are complementary.

There are entire towns in the United States--particularly in the South--where the childhood obesity rate is over 70%, and in some cases approaches 90%. In many of these areas, there is no gym, no recess, no playgrounds. And the kids don't do particularly well from an academic perspective. But they do show signs of diabetes and heart disease from age ten and up.
First off, I agree there are some psychological benefits to those who enjoy gym class. However, there were always several kids (many obese)for which forced participation in a sporting activity was pure torture. I also don't buy into the idea that 45 minutes (at most) of P.E. does much to eliminate obesity when bad eating habits still exist (particularly in many parts of the south). Finally, I think you've drawn a false correlation between lack of recess to bad grades. Of the numerous factors to poor academic performance I would guess lack of P.E. is way down the list.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
First off, I agree there are some psychological benefits to those who enjoy gym class. However, there were always several kids (many obese)for which forced participation in a sporting activity was pure torture. I also don't buy into the idea that 45 minutes (at most) of P.E. does much to eliminate obesity when bad eating habits still exist (particularly in many parts of the south). Finally, I think you've drawn a false correlation between lack of recess to bad grades. Of the numerous factors to poor academic performance I would guess lack of P.E. is way down the list.


1)45 minutes of exercise per day makes a huge difference in anyone's life. There is plenty of evidence to suggest this. Further, in an area where there are good playgrounds, gym class and recess, most children would likely get more than 45 minutes of exercise per day. In areas where none of these exist, you get towns that have 90% obesity rates among their children, who also show early symptoms of heart disease and other health problems.

2)You forwarded the demonstrably false dichotomy between academics and physical activity. I merely pointed out the two complement one another.

3)I agree that some obese kids often find competitive sports intimidating and unpleasant. That's why some forward-thinking schools have used stationary bikes and other individually-oriented, non-competitive strategies to encourage physical activity among students who are interested in this approach. The results I've heard about suggests the programs work. To encourage sedentary behavior among obese children is the equivalent of greasing their downward path into an early grave.

4)Of course one must take a holistic approach to physical health. No one has said otherwise.

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According to BMI many of the football players are obese and not just the offensive linemen.

That's because Cutler has Diabeetus

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Tall Midget wrote:
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First off, I agree there are some psychological benefits to those who enjoy gym class. However, there were always several kids (many obese)for which forced participation in a sporting activity was pure torture. I also don't buy into the idea that 45 minutes (at most) of P.E. does much to eliminate obesity when bad eating habits still exist (particularly in many parts of the south). Finally, I think you've drawn a false correlation between lack of recess to bad grades. Of the numerous factors to poor academic performance I would guess lack of P.E. is way down the list.


1)45 minutes of exercise per day makes a huge difference in anyone's life. There is plenty of evidence to suggest this. Further, in an area where there are good playgrounds, gym class and recess, most children would likely get more than 45 minutes of exercise per day. In areas where none of these exist, you get towns that have 90% obesity rates among their children, who also show early symptoms of heart disease and other health problems. I would agree that 45 minutes of actual exercise would be great. However, I don't recall that being the case the vast majority of time in gym class. Changing clothes, picking teams, waiting your turn etc eat up much of the class. We also spent as much time participating in relatively sedate sports as those which required substantial energy expenditure. For the record: I'm all in favor of playgrounds though.

2)You forwarded the demonstrably false dichotomy between academics and physical activity. I merely pointed out the two complement one another. Actually if you re-read my post there was no such dichotomy. I stated that if it came down to one or the other I would choose academics over P.E. at school. I am not against P.E. per se, nor do I think it serves no purpose. I just don't think it ranks as highly in importance as other commonly neglected or marginalized subjects in terms of a students future success.

3)I agree that some obese kids often find competitive sports intimidating and unpleasant. That's why some forward-thinking schools have used stationary bikes and other individually-oriented, non-competitive strategies to encourage physical activity among students who are interested in this approach. The results I've heard about suggests the programs work. To encourage sedentary behavior among obese children is the equivalent of greasing their downward path into an early grave. Nobody is encouraging sedentary behavior. I just don't think it should be the schools responsibility to force quasi-exercise at the expense of other subjects. A parent should be responsible for their child's health - particularly if they are obese.

4)Of course one must take a holistic approach to physical health. No one has said otherwise.

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