if the Trib was not going to sell the cubs I would think they would love to have him as the Cubs pregame host, he is a bland white bread excuse machine.

The only time you get some passion from the guy is when he replies to my posts. lol

or maybe a Cardinals game? Am I right or am I 'RONGI" lol

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

To me he's a punch-the-dial voice and show. Zzzzz.....

I enjoy his interaction with some of the dimmer bulbs of the scoreboard. That said, I don't hear a great deal of Rongey, since I don't like the White Sox.

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What a shock. bigfan still doesn't like me. That's fine, neither do my parents.

I don't believe I've ever responded to any of your posts with passion. I do enjoy the board and appreciate the outlet (as I know a lot of others do as well) but am still trying to figure out why a grown man would spend his time and money to facilitate discussion about a bunch of dudes on sports radio. It's like a Port-a-Potty: you're glad it's there but you have no desire to purchase, setup, or maintain it. Gotta have a hobby though, right?

Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's but the question I have for you is: what excuse did I make?

"Pain don't hurt," right?

Edit: Actually, it was, "Opinions vary."

Actually, I think I've used both. Everything I need to know I learned from "Roadhouse".

Is that the Patrick Swayze as a bouncer movie ?

ROADHOUSE.

How is the beard, Ranger?

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Better than the Sox bullpen.

Here is my list of things worse than the Sox bullpen:

-Cancer
-Sex & The City
-Fall Out Boy
-My 6 iron
-Bill Wirtz

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One of the funniest insults I ever heard was when my friend compared somebody to the fat bouncer in Roadhouse that shows up late to everything. It's not that funny at face value, but it cracked me up at the time.

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Congrats for being able to come up with five things!

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That post took me 7 hours.

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Once again, Rong, takes the fact that I think others would have been better for the job as not liking him.

It's the same criticism your morning, midday, and afternoon show spew about every national announcer and even Len and Bob. That they dont take the team to task or they dont know enough about the goings on.

It's just a conflict of interests, when the station broadcasts the games, they have an overly sensitive/PR department that probably monitors the weekly show. Really doesn't jive well with "VOICE OF THE FANS"

The only difference of opinion I would have if the Score had the Cubs rights would be that I would be pasisonate about my opinions and care a ton more about not letting my ownership have it for selling out the season because they won a World Series.

I enjoyed the later night Chris Rongeiy (sp?) shows , you always allowed the idiots to talk and talk, which was quite humorful (learned that word from MNMS)

if I didn't like you I would say so.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Not speaking for BigFan, but I think if people can get on the radio and praise or beat on someone or a team for four hours, why cant we? I am not ripping on you Chris, but there are some radio people out there who while they take joy ripping into anyone for any reason, they cannot handle that same heat when the tables are turned.

You know I am a Cub fan Chris and we have our discussions, but I think you do a good job, I just dont like the team you work for.

By the way Ranger, you are right, the Sox bullpen, ick!

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First of all, it is not the job of Pat and Ron, Len and Bob, Hawk and DJ, Ed and Chris, to rip the organizations they work for. They are announcers and game analysts. Their job is to call the game action and criticize respectfully when necessary. Their roles are not the same as that of a morning sports talk show host. They should be able to criticize, but they are not in the fortunate position of venting an irrational negative opinion about one thing, only to praise that very thing 3 weeks later.

"How could they trade McCarthy???? This deal is terrrrrrible!!!"

2 months later: "Hey this Danks deal looks pretty good."

You might call it "passion", I sometimes call it "irrationality". Know all the details about a situation before you tear into an organization or player about what they're doing.

For example, the team does not monitor the weekly show in the sense you mean it. They listen, but they never criticize anything I've said or tell me what not to say. That goes for postgame too. If anything, they're incredibly hands-off...with the exception of asking me to announce ticket availability, upcoming events, charity stuff, etc. That's it.

And I don't know what you mean by "I would be pasisonate about my opinions and care a ton more about not letting my ownership have it for selling out the season because they won a World Series." Does that mean if the situation were reversed and the Cubs won it all and were now on the Score, you would want more violent criticism? Are you saying the Sox are giving up on trying to win because they won the Series already? If so, that's completely absurd and you know it. Maybe your statement just wasn't worded clearly.

bf, you're free to like someone else's work over mine. That's a matter of taste. But you still can't give me an example of an "excuse" I've made. And that's probably because you don't agree with my opinon and the easiest way to attempt to invalidate that opinion is to pull the "company man" card.

Ranger,

I think you are a huge improvement over the "drillrod" you replaced. I know it's hard to try to be positive over a terrible team. This year's Sox do suck.
You'll like the t-shirt I saw recently

It Sux to be a Sox fan

Ranger - I listen to the post game show during the week a lot, and you do a fine job. I hope you don't get this defensive with all of your critics.

BD, I don't mind criticism at all. I criticize, so then it's fair for me to receive it as well. I just ask for specifics instead of an ad hominem to invalidate something I've said. "You work for the Sox, you're an apologist." That sort of thing. Besides, they don't even pay me.

Ranger - I don't care about the soap opera going on in here, so let's get some baseball info from you.

This is looking like a quiet trading month with not a lot of starting pitching available, and teams unwilling to trade their top prospects. I'm seeing guys like Gagne going somewhere, but do you see the White Sox moving Jermaine Dye or just taking the draft picks ? Any up names on the White Sox (Iguchi, etc.) who could be moved over the next few weeks ?

Also, with the payroll probably expected to be around $100 million next season, how do the Sox build a team that can compete with Detroit, Cleveland, and Minnesota if nearly $45-50 million is tied up with Buerhle, Garland, Contreras, and Vazquez, along with Konerko and Thome also tied up to big money ? Right there is probably about $75 million which doesn't leave a lot left for the remainder of ther roster.

I think we're going to see Garland/Contreras (mainly for the cash, not for much help back) moved this winter for players who can
contribute immediately at positions that we lack in.

Any chance of the White Sox increasing their payroll by a significant increase to pay ARod big bucks ? That's a rumor that's been out there, and I don't really want that to happen (because of the % of money going to one player) or exepct it to happen, but Reinsdorf did pay Jordan $30 million in the 90's, and will make the occasional free agent splash (Albert Belle). So, in short, I don't think something like this would happen, but do you completely rule this out ?

As far the future is concerned what is your 3 biggest positions you would look to address either this deadline or off-season ?? Looking at next season, I think we have holes in LF/CF/RF/SS/2B, and then in the bullpen obviously.

I think ranger is in a no win sitatuion here, because if he woked for the cubs, sox fans would be calling him a cub apologist. I wouldnt really want the job just because my patience level and blood pressure couldnt handle bad baseball and fans who want to trade Uribe for a-rod.

Actually, I think Vann is on to something: Uribe for A-Rod straight up!

BD, it's gonna be tough. They're going to have to depend upon some youth (which doesn't necessarily sound appealing because of what we've seen of their prospects so far) and on the current vets they keep to actually perform like they're supposed to. When it comes down to it, if they keep a solid rotation, improve the bullpen, and make sure the offense is the worst in baseball, they can compete. If they can compete, anything can happen but it's not a sure thing. I figure that's about the best they can do at this point, unless they spend more than they've got in the offseason.

Contreras I don't think will be here. Just a guess. Don't think Dye will be either. I think he'll get moved more likely than they'll take picks. And if they moved Garland there should be some GREAT help come back in return. I'd like to see them hold on to Buehrle, Garland, and Vazquez as a 1-2-3. Build around that. I do, however, think Garland will be tougher to re-sign than Buehrle was.

The problem is that it's really difficult to tell what they plan on doing because things change so much. I know it doesn't help much, but

... We regret to inform you that Ranger was mauled by a ravinous boar in mid-sentence.

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Fire Phil Emery

Yeah, it's almost like he had something important to say, but the plug was pulled!

Whoa, what the Hell happened there??? I know there was an end to that sentence:

"...but, it's the best I can tell you."

Something like that. Not necessarily an exciting conclusion, but it was a conclusion nevertheless.

That "ravenous boar" line was pretty good. Laughed out loud.

Also, in my last post, I meant "make sure it is NOT the worst offense in baseball."

With the Sox being as terrible as they have been, I have found myself tuning out more and more, but even earlier on in the season when I listened more frequently, I recall the Ranger taking players to task after poor performances. I forget the game, but Uribe had a couple errors to keep an inning alive and Ranger let him have it. Just because he is not on the ledge like a lot of the die hard white sax tans are does not mean he is an apologist or excuse maker.

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SHUT UP I'M NOT ON THE LEDGE!

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Ranger,

As a fan of the Sox, I wouldn't wish your job right now on anyone. (Well, ok, maybe Abbatacola, but he's a Cubs fan. Then there's Murph, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't need the money......)

See, what I love is folks want you to just rip into this team, top to bottom, when it hasn't been every member of the Sox organization that has been a disappointment this year. But in hosting a Sox focused show, if you do nothing but negative airing, why would Sox fans tune in? Is it worth dwelling on every negative point, without focusing on anything positive?

Can you point to Kenny and say he didn't put together a good team? Yes.

But who exactly is at fault for the sheer amount of injuries?

Hang in there, Chris. Love the show.