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Who is the douchebag?
John Walsh, for overreacting 38%  38%  [ 3 ]
Sgt. Ron King, for posessing targets 63%  63%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:31 pm 
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CNN wrote:
-- The Florida police sergeant fired for possessing shooting targets resembling Trayvon Martin defended himself Sunday and said the targets were meant to be used as training aids for "no-shoot" situations.

Sgt. Ron King was fired from his job as a firearms instructor for the Port Canaveral Police Department on Friday after an internal review determined he possessed the paper targets and offered them to fellow officers for use during a firearms training session earlier this month.

"When informed of the basic facts, (I) found the entire situation unacceptable," John Walsh, the interim chief executive of the Canaveral Port Authority, told reporters Saturday. "It is not the type of behavior that I want a police officer to have on both a personal and professional level. I find his conduct intolerable and I demanded that the chief immediately start procedures to terminate this employee."

The paper targets show a faceless black hooded sweatshirt with a bull's-eye on the chest. In one hand is a can of iced tea and in the pocket is a pack of Skittles candy, the same items Martin was carrying when he was shot and killed last year in a case that has drawn national attention.

King, in a video statement posted online, said he bought the targets because the two items -- the Skittles and iced tea -- were not threatening, which meant the target could be used to help train officers when not to shoot a suspect.


King did not say where he bought the targets, but similar ones caused a controversy when they were first sold online a year ago.

"While others have used it as a novelty, I view it as a tool for scenario-based firearms training," King said. Using "real-life situations" as training scenarios is not uncommon for firearms instructors, he said, and they help teach police how to respond to incidents in the future.


So, the firearms instructor says he bought the targets as a way of teaching when not to shoot. But the "chief executive" (whatever that is within a police department), claims that the investigation shows conduct unbecoming.
So either the instructor is a douchebag for shooting at these or he was perfectly responsible and the chief is a douchebag for overreacting and being a weiner.

Here's a picture of the targets.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:34 pm 
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If we have to have training exercises to teach our Finest that a person walking with Skittles and Iced Tea is not someone to shoot....well I think were pretty fuckd


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All of the above.
The targets are a good idea (teaching when to shoot and when not to shoot is a good idea) in clearly bad taste in a "not thinking the situation through" way but to demand his resignation is a bit of an overreaction that smacks of grandstanding.

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Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.


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SomeGuy wrote:
Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.

And have Skittles hanging out of their pocket?


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SomeGuy wrote:
Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.


I assume that you are kidding...right?

What about the Skittles?

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SomeGuy wrote:
Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.

Please stop being willfully ignorant, SomeGuy. I understand your bit, but c'mon...

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Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.

And have Skittles hanging out of their pocket?


Oh, I missed those.


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Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.


I assume that you are kidding...right?

What about the Skittles?


They were mailed with permission!

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.

Please stop being willfully ignorant, SomeGuy. I understand your bit, but c'mon...


Stop it. Not a bit , pal, didn't see the Skittles.

So settle down, thanks.


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King has to be smarter than to get targets specifically with Arizona Iced Tea and Skittles. That's just asking for trouble.


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SomeGuy wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.

Please stop being willfully ignorant, SomeGuy. I understand your bit, but c'mon...


Stop it. Not a bit , pal, didn't see the Skittles.

So settle down, thanks.

Even without the Skittles it should have been pretty obvious. But again, I "get" you, so no need to be angry with me.

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CNN wrote:
"When informed of the basic facts, (I) found the entire situation unacceptable," John Walsh, the interim chief executive of the Canaveral Port Authority, told reporters Saturday.

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King has to be smarter than to get targets specifically with Arizona Iced Tea and Skittles. That's just asking for trouble.


Yeah, he probably should have thought that part through.


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Typical over-reaction to cover his own ass. Suspend the guy, cut his rank, whatever.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.

Please stop being willfully ignorant, SomeGuy. I understand your bit, but c'mon...


Stop it. Not a bit , pal, didn't see the Skittles.

So settle down, thanks.

Even without the Skittles it should have been pretty obvious. But again, I "get" you, so no need to be angry with me.


Not so sure.

Would it have been acceptable if it was just a target with a hoodie and a can of Pepsi in its hand?


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.

Please stop being willfully ignorant, SomeGuy. I understand your bit, but c'mon...


Stop it. Not a bit , pal, didn't see the Skittles.

So settle down, thanks.

Even without the Skittles it should have been pretty obvious. But again, I "get" you, so no need to be angry with me.


I disagree.

Without the Skittles, I would say it's someone trying to make an issue out of nothing.

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SomeGuy wrote:
Not so sure.

Yes I do. You are inherently wired to do the devil's advocate thing. Steve could say he wants to bring back negro-lynching and you'd say something like, "Well, there are some bad ones who deserve it."

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SomeGuy wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
King has to be smarter than to get targets specifically with Arizona Iced Tea and Skittles. That's just asking for trouble.


Yeah, he probably should have thought that part through.


The sad thing is, he probably did.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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Not so sure.

Yes I do. You are inherently wired to do the devil's advocate thing. Steve could say he wants to bring back negro-lynching and you'd say something like, "Well, there are some bad ones who deserve it."


:shock:

That's a serious accusation and not at all true IMO.

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It's about the opposing stance Peeps.

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CNN wrote:
"When informed of the basic facts, (I) found the entire situation unacceptable," John Walsh, the interim chief executive of the Canaveral Port Authority, told reporters Saturday.

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:lol: first thing i thought of too


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
It's about the opposing stance Peeps.


Yeah but that's a hell of an example to try and make that point.

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SomeGuy wrote:
Not so sure.

Yes I do. You are inherently wired to do the devil's advocate thing. Steve could say he wants to bring back negro-lynching and you'd say something like, "Well, there are some bad ones who deserve it."


You're batting .000 at this point. Kid.

Maybe it's time to stop swinging away.


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SomeGuy wrote:
Not so sure.

Yes I do. You are inherently wired to do the devil's advocate thing. Steve could say he wants to bring back negro-lynching and you'd say something like, "Well, there are some bad ones who deserve it."


You're batting .000 at this point. Kid.

Maybe it's time to stop swinging away.

I have a groove I'm trying to step into.

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If it's a "no shoot" target why is there a bullseye on it?

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Who would this be directed at?


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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Trayvon Targets?

It's a hoodie with a bottle of water in its hand.

Lots of people wear hoodies and drink from a water bottle.


I assume that you are kidding...right?

What about the Skittles?


They were mailed with permission!

:lol:

That's well done, Peeps. Out of your usual range. Good stuff.


And this isnt cuz its a shot at Panther. Panther probably got a little too persecuted for that one.


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If it's a "no shoot" target why is there a bullseye on it?

:lol:


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