There has to be limits on section 8 right? Only a certain amount of people right?

Good for them. This should help a lot of people.

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Ya I'm not too worried about landlords but I don't know how we pay for that.

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How can people just move somewhere else to be safer if they won't accept Section 8? Bernsie must be for this.

Good for them.

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I'm sorry property owners are so poor they couldn't form a PAC to stop this.

Wouldn't this only affect properties in unincorporated areas?

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I gotta say, the fact that Section 8 and the need for it is expanding, is not a great thing.


Too much dependence on government in general

Agreed, rpb. And all of this while the Dow is hitting records, unemployment keeps dropping, and the economy continues to get better and better.

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I think Gacyville is the only unincorporated area left in Cook County, and last I read they were working on trying to fix that.

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Yeah, well these things take time, Im sure the need was at an all time high when this began.

Im glad it helps people, but we should try to work towards not needing so much government assistance.

Just Cook County or all of Illinois?

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The Dow has nothing to do with the economy as it is experienced by average citizens. A lot of the long-term unemployed no longer qualify for unemployment compensation and are thus not counted as "unemployed" by the federal government. Many of the jobs that are being created do not pay a living wage. Additionally, something like 300,000 jobs need to be created every month just to keep pace with the number of people who are entering the job market. We haven't seen that level of job creation in several years and thus have a "jobs deficit" totaling in the millions. In the past year, economic inequality in the U.S. reached its highest level since the 1890s, the freaking Gilded Age. That means that we have effectively undone many of the middle class-building measures of the past century--the reforms of the Progressive Era, the New Deal, the G.I. Bill, the Great Society--and now live in a society where it's as if none of that history took place. I'm not even going to get into the amount of wealth millions of ordinary people have lost due to the foreclosure epidemic. This economy sucks.

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Fuck this. I bought a townhouse at the peak of the bubble and moved out in 2009. Was forced to keep the townhouse as a rental as I was well under water in fucking Carpentersville. Last I checked values were down 45-50% from when I bought. And they are going to tell me how i have to rent to. Fuck them.

I can't afford 1 bad tenant and I go to great lengths to rent to responsible qualified people, even leaving it vacant for a month or 2 at a time to find the perfect person.

nomination supported, fuck anyone who thinks this doesn't fuck over small time people. If the government wants to cover my loses that's one thing. But I didn't fuck over the bank and am trying to do the right thing and they are telling me who I have to rent to. Total Bull shit.

This. All you need is one sec 8 renter to move in stop paying and then you go through hell trying for a year to move them out and you lose the house. I am not sure on the intricacies of sec 8 or this bill but hardly seems fair. I was under the impression they designate sec 8 housing before it is being built or through some other application process by owners willing to do it.

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It's not like you don't go through hell with non-section 8 people.

I dont know, KD. Turd and Mike's points make sense.

Its a lot easier to evict non section 8, right?

Agreed.

I just want to point out, I wasnt agreeing with Frank's assessment of the economy but I do think we are a shade off the bottom. Baby steps now when long strides are needed, but still baby steps.

I think if you are building from scratch for govt will give you special loans to tax breaks if its section 8 housing, but you are required to follow through on it. In my case my realtor asks me if I will consider section 8.

I'm on my 4th set of tenants, and knock on wood, I haven't gone through hell.

Its your choice, someone with great credit making enough money to easily cover rent and values their credit as to not fuck you over. Or someone who is getting government backing to pay a large % of their rent.

My sister-in-law is on assistance and I cringe when I am at their place as her son dents the wall saying its not my house.

This law wouldn't need to exist if section 8 people were just as good as non-section 8.

Anyways, most renters will just have income requirements for tenants, which will actually hurt poor people more.

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I actually think it would be the opposite. the govt is sending me their rent check. If they are trashing my place but making payments, what can i do. I assume I'd still have to hire a lawyer and fight for 6 months. Sure I may collect another 6K of rent checks. But what will that do me when I need to replace walls carpet and appliances. That 6K would have just covered my mortgage.

I have heard of laws like this that require you to open up to section 8 if you have a minimum number of units for rent. But anyone with 5 rentals or less likely can't afford a bad tenant and the only defense is exceptional screening.

Seems too easy. Surely the gov't thought of that

It's only easy if you have nice apartments. If it's a cheap apartment, your tenants are likely to not meet the standards. If you require someone makes $50k a year(more for families) you need to have it be nice enough to attract those people.

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Interesting.

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Im not sure that constitutes Communism.

And dont you have to have inspectors out regardless? So you're saying it will be more frequent?

Also, I assume this will cut down on slumlords not taking care of things. That's a positive right?

Ok, definitely closer to 1984ish than Communism.

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