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Which league has the worst current story line ?
Basketball - Ref betting on games 48%  48%  [ 16 ]
Baseball - Bonds about to break biggest record in sports 24%  24%  [ 8 ]
Football - Mike Vick and his dogfighting ring 21%  21%  [ 7 ]
Golf - Allegations that steriods are used in golf 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
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Pick one of the poll options, and explain your reasoning


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Gotta be Vick and his sub-human behavior. The man was participating in an illegal activity that goes beyond cruelty. The image of the NFL has become very poor over the last few years with the illegal activities of it's players. While the NBA has also dealt with an image problem for many years, I believe this list of current NFL issues has pulled ahead.


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I went with football....though if the betting scandel turns out to be more than just one lone ref, then that will spin out of control fast. Right now, the NBA will get a lot of negative press questioning the integrity of the sport, but should anything else come from this, then it will get really ugly fast.

I went with the NFL because, as already mentioned, their image with some of these recent arrests is also taking a beat down, and although it probably won't affect the viewing habits of the millions watching the NFL, this Vick story is so unbelievable, and the NFL's actions (or inaction so far) could give this story an OJ Simpson type following of the trial over an extended period of time.

Baseball would probably be getting more outrage if this wasn't inevitable. Now it seems, everyone knows Bonds was juiced up, and most agree that the record is a sham, but it's going to happen in the next few days or so.

Golf was obvioulsy a reach, but this is the first time we've heard these types of allegations...


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i picked baseball because i misvoted. I would have picked NBA, That story could have affected the utcme of the playoffs.

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Easily the NBA. The story keeps getting worse as now other officials and even players are now suspected of being involved. If true and Donaghy is not an isolated incident it could get real ugly. The other storylines (except possibly the steroids in golf) all involve one individual whereas if games in the NBA were fixed, it just can't get any worse than that.


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NBA. This discovery opens up a long seede questions that shake the fundamental basis of the league.

The Vick stuff is a fairly isolated incident.

Bonds' story, while also shaking the fundamental basis of the league, has already been told.


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Baku wrote:
Easily the NBA. The story keeps getting worse as now other officials and even players are now suspected of being involved. If true and Donaghy is not an isolated incident it could get real ugly. The other storylines (except possibly the steroids in golf) all involve one individual whereas if games in the NBA were fixed, it just can't get any worse than that.


That NY Daily News story didn't say that more names would be mentioned, it speculated without providing any details that this could happen, so I'm still, to this point, believing this was the only ref who will come to light in this story.


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Basketball

If more refs get caught fixing games then everytime you watch a basketball game you are going to wonder if the "fix" is in.


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If more refs get caught fixing games then everytime you watch a basketball game you are going to wonder if the "fix" is in.


I am now questioning if this is why my Hawks didn't make the playoffs last year. The man is trying to keep Zaza Pachulia down!


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I went baseball, the basketball controversy does not involve a player

Vick's controversy is not on the field

Steroids involve cheating by a player, on the field

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I went basketball. I think it, if true, could impact seasons of games and W/L records. We'll get to put a little asterick next to them as well. Betting on sports in Vegas is fine. Being a ref and betting on the games, umm, I am thinking this could be very bad.

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Sorry, I misread the question and voted golf so you can disregard the one vote. I would vote for the NBA because of the effects the refs actions could have had on the outcome of games. I think it's much worse than Pete Rose betting on baseball.


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Football.

The NFL has such a carefully crafted image it attempts to portray, but it and it's players' actions fall so far short. We can all laugh at Buffone's characterization of pro players as having the 'neanderthal gene', but there is far more truth to it than most believe. At some point it will be as easy and cheap a ploy for some congressman to call for grandstanding hearings (again). Plus, Goodell is only going to be able to be hard for so long. At some point he will have to go the road of his predecessors and start to sweep some of it under the rug, and at that point he loses his 'moral' authority and the sport will be worse for wear.

More distressingly for the league, I believe that I read that the league doesn't test for HGH, and if true, how long before it starts to get some of what baseball is reeling from now. And I haven't mentioned either the labor relations with either current or retired players.

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WNBA

There are not enough beautiful, Scandinavian, blond, bikini-wearing players. It's obvious discrimination.

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Football.

The NFL has such a carefully crafted image it attempts to portray, but it and it's players' actions fall so far short. We can all laugh at Buffone's characterization of pro players as having the 'neanderthal gene', but there is far more truth to it than most believe. At some point it will be as easy and cheap a ploy for some congressman to call for grandstanding hearings (again). Plus, Goodell is only going to be able to be hard for so long. At some point he will have to go the road of his predecessors and start to sweep some of it under the rug, and at that point he loses his 'moral' authority and the sport will be worse for wear.

More distressingly for the league, I believe that I read that the league doesn't test for HGH, and if true, how long before it starts to get some of what baseball is reeling from now. And I haven't mentioned either the labor relations with either current or retired players.


There is no test for HGH- they couldn't test even if they desperately wanted to do so. Besides, I'm still convinced that HGH is the 21st-century equivalent of corking your bat- it doesn't do a damn thing.

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you're all idiots. the clear answer here is golf. so what if a ref made a little money on the side for betting the winning team. so what if vick fought a few puppies. so what if bonds took some sort of cream that made his head expand in size. but i hear that golfers who take riods think the hole is about 10 times bigger than it actually is! damn those promiscious golf holes. damn them to hell.

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There is no test for HGH- they couldn't test even if they desperately wanted to do so. Besides, I'm still convinced that HGH is the 21st-century equivalent of corking your bat- it doesn't do a damn thing.


My error, my concerns rested with their having no blood testing whatsoever, not just for HGH. Not having blood testing for EPO/other blood doping or the higher accuracy testing alone is distressing. (I know the CBA/labor law arguments, but we are speaking to the greater good here) As for the belief that it(HGH) doesn't do a damn thing for you we can agree to disagree, but in larger part that's not the point. It in larger part is that athletes of all ages attempting to reach the heights of their level are like lemmings in that the belief/faith is enough to disregard common sense and sound (medical) reasoning. And when that extends to high school age kids it is just sad and almost criminal by the athletes or the leagues that cast a blind eye to 'enhancement' use.

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That much is certainly true. And frankly, just like corking the bat, if you think you're cheating, you're cheating, even if the actual physical effect are nil.

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Irish Boy wrote:
That much is certainly true. And frankly, just like corking the bat, if you think you're cheating, you're cheating, even if the actual physical effect are nil.


Though it was funny to read an article in Esquire about six(6) months ago about the 'benefits' of HGH therapy. 70+ year olds bragging about their young trophy girlfriends, and their belief that they (the 70 year olds) had newfound ability to lay the "wood". I believe that HGH can help athletes or younger patients, but the well to do 70 year olds are, like others of their age, just a bit delusional. (No, it's not the big tips I leave at Gibson's, it the big tip I... oh never mind.) :P

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