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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:15 am 
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Alfred is Bruce's real father.

Mrs Wayne cheated. That's why Alfred is so worried about his "master"


I wasn't drawn to the Alred-Bruce subplot either. It was done so poorly that I really didn't care. Weaving the Alfred-Bruce/Batman plot into the larger story gave the trilogy something like an identity crisis, not unlike the identity crisis in the Bourne trilogy (amnesia/self-discovery vs private contractor/government abuse of power/international espionage). It's like pick a lane, please.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:07 pm 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Alfred is Bruce's real father.

Mrs Wayne cheated. That's why Alfred is so worried about his "master"


I wasn't drawn to the Alred-Bruce subplot either. It was done so poorly that I really didn't care. Weaving the Alfred-Bruce/Batman plot into the larger story gave the trilogy something like an identity crisis, not unlike the identity crisis in the Bourne trilogy (amnesia/self-discovery vs private contractor/government abuse of power/international espionage). It's like pick a lane, please.

I wasnt too into these recent Batman movies other than seeing them for cool action movie type stuff.

I know its a little deeper than the other portrayals, but I wasnt seeking depth


I fucking loved Bane


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Bale's Batman voice might the dumbest thing in the history of cinema.

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Zizou wrote:
Bale's Batman voice might the dumbest thing in the history of cinema.


But it sort of makes sense. If you were dressing up as a crime fighting vigilante, you would probably want to disguise your voice too.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Zizou wrote:
Bale's Batman voice might the dumbest thing in the history of cinema.


But it sort of makes sense. If you were dressing up as a crime fighting vigilante, you would probably want to disguise your voice too.

If you had a pronounced lisp or a Dutch accent, maybe. But not if you have a normal register voice. I thought it was silly and distracting.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Zizou wrote:
Bale's Batman voice might the dumbest thing in the history of cinema.


But it sort of makes sense. If you were dressing up as a crime fighting vigilante, you would probably want to disguise your voice too.

If you had a pronounced lisp or a Dutch accent, maybe. But not if you have a normal register voice. I thought it was silly and distracting.


He was a pretty well known person, why take the risk that his voice could be recognized.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Zizou wrote:
Bale's Batman voice might the dumbest thing in the history of cinema.


But it sort of makes sense. If you were dressing up as a crime fighting vigilante, you would probably want to disguise your voice too.

If you had a pronounced lisp or a Dutch accent, maybe. But not if you have a normal register voice. I thought it was silly and distracting.


He was a pretty well known person, why take the risk that his voice could be recognized.



Well then he should have affected a drawl or something. Maybe ended every phrase with ese or holmes.

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I would love to see a dub of the Trilogy when Bale uses a "Murph voice" for Batman. Or fuck, just get Murph to dub over Batman's lines.


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Zizou wrote:
Bale's Batman voice might the dumbest thing in the history of cinema.


But it sort of makes sense. If you were dressing up as a crime fighting vigilante, you would probably want to disguise your voice too.


Maybe they wanted to differentiate this Batman from Micheal Keaton's Batman. Keaton did not alter his voice and I thought it worked just fine.

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i think he (nolan) wanted to have it both ways a little too much in the trilogy but it really came through in DKR. when it came to being too heavy or a bit too deep the mentality seemed to be "well, i'm taking batman to new, more realistic levels, to deeper realms."

then when it came to cartoonish over the top gadgets and explosions, and a really unbelievable resolution in DKR, it's like he's saying, "well, it's a comic book movie!"

well, either you want it realistic or you want it cartoonish.


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W_Z wrote:
i think he (nolan) wanted to have it both ways a little too much in the trilogy but it really came through in DKR. when it came to being too heavy or a bit too deep the mentality seemed to be "well, i'm taking batman to new, more realistic levels, to deeper realms."

then when it came to cartoonish over the top gadgets and explosions, and a really unbelievable resolution in DKR, it's like he's saying, "well, it's a comic book movie!"

well, either you want it realistic or you want it cartoonish.


Good point. The conflict you point out may be the product of constraints the studio or whatever entity puts on movies and directors. I remember reading an article the other day about some director who complained that he had to add or extend an action scene under the orders of some executive. I also remember a behind the scenes piece on the Godfather movies in which Coppola said something about prolonging the domestic abuse scene between Connie and Carlo because the studio wanted more action at that point.

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