He's a complicated Strawman and no one understands him but the Wizard. And maybe Dorothy Gale.

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No, I was talking about you. You clearly dont understand.

Yes, you did attack position Y. Position Y is me saying I watch entire Fresno St games. (Something I never said or indicated)

Since, you dont watch entire Fresno state games, that means no one watches college football for NFL prospects

It could not be more clear cut


Everyone who reads this will know. Im good with that.

A straw man or straw person, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally,[1][2] is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[3] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"),

I never said you did either. Please post the quote where I said you did.

I'm saying that if a person was interested in scouting players, they'd watch the complete game of those players. Let me reiterate, that is MY stance. I don't believe that someone is truly interested in something if they spend 20 minutes watching it once a year.

My argument is purely time based. It's the same scenario, with the same teams, and the same games, with the minor difference of time. If that is a straw man argument, then every argument is a straw man argument.

Are you honestly telling me that watching 20 minutes of a game vs. watching a full game is "superficially similar yet unequivalent"? There is literally one difference.

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Who is going to watch a full game of Fresno State because the QB has a chance to be a first rounder?


You posted that to say that no one would watch a whole game to scout. My position has never been that people need to watch 3 hours of football to scout the player.

So, the full game of Fresno state is a strawman argument. It doesnt matter who would do that, because that is not the argument.

Everything else after that is you trying to back away from the textbook strawman

Rick is Nazi Germany, you are Poland obviously, and I am America back when America was America.


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Let me point out a few things here.

I brought up Fresno State and watching a full game before you even mentioned the time you spent watching prospects. That is yet another reason it's impossible for it to be a straw man argument. It was a brand new thought by me! You are arguing that my original thought was a strawman because you responded to me that you don't have to watch a full game. You are the one who added in the time difference!

I consider myself to be an internet arguing champion, but even I don't have the power to know that my initial argument is "superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition" to a reply that I'll then get about it.

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Keep digging deeper


My position: People watch college games to scout

Your strawman response: Who is going to watch an entire Fresno State game to scout?

My response to your strawman: No one said anything about watching full games.


Strawman. Plain and simple. No two ways about it.


The time difference u keep clinging to means nothing. And it was not a "brand new thought" it was an addendum to my position that some people watch games to scout.

There is no way out of this, Rick

Its a clear strawman. Everyone can see it.

No one put any time frame on there. Why would I assume that you meant people will watch one or two series instead of a whole game? I assume that when we are talking about watching a game that we are discussing watching most or all of it. The burden should not be on me to know that you actually meant that you watch a few series of a guy.

I think you are simply taking my comment out of context.

As you can see, the entire conversation was about total viewing habits. I rejected the idea that 35-40% of people are watching Fresno State to scout a pro prospect. You then brought up the fact that you didn't mean the whole game and simply meant a few series. While you may have meant that, it is not my fault that I didn't read your mind. It's clearly not a strawman argument. If anything, it was me not understanding a caveat you were making but hadn't yet stated.

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