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Dude's gonna go from a tight end to a wide receiver real quick in the joint.


That's #3.



Somebody already used that one?


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Ok I got a new one. Just act like I didn't say the other one, and this one will seem much funnier. Ok you ready? Here it is:


Bet that Odin Lloyd dude went into some sort of prevent defense. That shit never works.


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Definitely the Rant.


Jerk. :lol:


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Jerk. :lol:

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OK, after all of the media drum-beating re: the downfall of one Aaron Her Nana Dez White-Bryant, i gotta ask the obvious question here:

wtf did this odin lloyd cat do to get himself killed?

lost in the constant mass/media drum-beating of gun-violence/homicides is the fact that no matter what the murder rate is (lower than it was in the 70s/80s, but since TPTB want your guns it's sensationalized as the worst ever) people typically have to do some really fucked up bitch shit to get shot. it's one thing to have an innocent bystander kid on a playground catch a stray bullet, but ~95-98% of the victims are people who done fucked up somewhere and thus earned their bullets.... so what did odin lloyd do?

from what i've gathered, aaron hernandez was texting someone about how "you can't trust anyone anymore" when he was en route to go pick up odin.... and it's an actual fact that odin was dating aaron's fiance's sister.... and it's been reported that the friday b4 the murder odin was "at the club" talking to people who are aaron's "enemies" or at least people who enjoy a communal "beef" with aaron....so it makes you wonder: what the fuck did odin do to get himself killed? here's my shots in the dark:

1) was aaron up on some sam hurd type business with/through odin and thus when odin was "at the club" he was caught slipping and gave up some info/$$$/product to aaron's "enemies" ??

2) was he turning out his fiancee's (little?) sister? like maybe they had some sort of debts related to the game or something, and maybe odin was getting the fiancee's sister out there earning some of it back? i mean, when i sit here at a complete loss/blank and try to think of the kind of stuff that would get odin in a situation where str8up gets executed, something like that comes to mind.

3) if aaron was indeed in "the game" or at least some sort of other shady dealings involving venture capital, did odin fuck up and do something that would end up costing aaron a solid chunk of change? keep in mind that the security cameras were turned off for ~6-8 hours or whatever and a cleaning crew came..... with the murder going down everyone assumes that was to clean up some blood/y clothes and dispose of the murder weapon, but maybe he also had some product in the house and he wanted to get rid of every trace of it in order to ensure that his fiancee/kid/family wouldn't get caught up in some sort of a drug racket and lose out on all the $$$ they were making..... cuz like, it'd make sense that you could have a NFL player launder money or store product cuz they're in a job where they make big $$$ relative to everyday peons like us, so if he suddenly came up with ~$50k to deposit it wouldn't be OMFG RED FLAGS like it would be for someone whose tax returns indicates he works part time for $12/hr..... so i'm thinking there was some sort of operation going on in that house and he used those 6-8 hrs to get rid of any evidence that could implicate them.

but yeah, brain is going !!!! thinking there had to be some sort of shady business going on that involved odin... since he was a 27 year old semi-pro player, i'm thinking maybe he was the guy who handled most of the drug business while aaron was the silent capital/warehouse/etc.... cuz during that arraignment they pointed out that he made a handful of texts to people saying GET UP HERE NOW!!! ASAP!!!! and then an hour later WTF WHERE ARE YOU?!?!! GET UP HERE!!!!!! so i'm thinking that odin fucked up some sort of lucrative drug-deal/money-laundering/etc and aaron was freaking out cuz whatever was coming down the pike was something that could have fucked him up and perhaps cost him a lot of money, put his immediate/family in harm's way / etc cuz like, having to go out of your way to go meet someone at ~2:45am usually says that the shit's going down.... and the fact that he was telling people to GET THE FUCK UP HERE NOW!!!! when he clearly wasn't worried about disposing of the body and getting rid of the murder weapon makes you think that he had some of his peoples come up and retrieve product/physical-volumes-of-cash and get the fuck out of dodge b4 the police were up in his house getting boxes of evidence.

so yeah, either aaron was gonna get really fucked up due to whatever the hell odin fucked up for him, or he just let his suddenly-notorious temper get the best of him and he had a mental breakdown and just snapped and executed the guy point blank and then was like "oh fuck what i did i do" and realized that he was completely fucked so he best do what he can do to situate the cash/product/whatever and make sure his family is looked out for as best as they can be and then just sit back relax and strap it down (shirt optional) waiting for the cops to come get him.

either way, i can only hope that the truth trickles out at some point.... but clearly there were some nefarious dealings going on here in order to get odin in a life-or-death situation at the spur of the moment @ ~3:20-3:30am, and then the way that aaron was a FUCKING AMATEUR dealing with the whole odin thing (surveilence prolly woulda got him, but at least get the guy the fuck out of there and think up a way to dispose of the body ffs) just makes me think that something else was in play that would potentially be far worse than aaron catching a murder-1 case......

either that, or he's just a completely unstable dumbass who just lost track of reality for ~10 seconds and held down that trigger and pumped the guy full of lead..... but to even get to a point where you're brandishing a loaded semiautomatic pistol in a guy's face you figure there had to be some sort of serious shit going on, something that required ~6-8 hours to get out of the house.

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or maybe, just maybe, aaron hernandez was a burrito and odin was his gay lover and he was threatening to go public / blackmailing aaron and welp, as it's been proven AH was packin heat and prone to let some bullets slip. so in the span of ~6 months you go from one "accidental" round to the face taking out an eye to ~10 all over the body taking out a life?

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Yeah you do. The purpose of being in a gang is pretty much to get rich fast and easy through crime. If you are rich, you really still in the slinging dope, selling guns, pimping girls and protecting territory thing? No.

I know he was in a gang, but I don't think this murder was gang related.

Granted, his thug past influenced his ability to kill. I'll give you that.
From the sounds of it, Hernandez is admitting major concerns about gang violence that was to be done against him.

I guess he should have just announced he wasn't in a gang any more!

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What the fuck?

This is snowballing quite quickly for young Aaron.


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This may have been posted already, but here is the outlined timeline by the prosecution yesterday:


http://www.thebig920.com/articles/sport ... -11435924/

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This may have been posted already, but here is the outlined timeline by the prosecution yesterday:


http://www.thebig920.com/articles/sport ... -11435924/



Thanks that was pretty detailed and looks like this is sewn up pretty tight. Either murder 1 or conspiracy for murder 1 shoudl be easy to convict.

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This may have been posted already, but here is the outlined timeline by the prosecution yesterday:


http://www.thebig920.com/articles/sport ... -11435924/



Thanks that was pretty detailed and looks like this is sewn up pretty tight. Either murder 1 or conspiracy for murder 1 shoudl be easy to convict.

Yeah, the whole shell casing and bubble gum wrapper will be pretty hard for the defense to get by.

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This may have been posted already, but here is the outlined timeline by the prosecution yesterday:


http://www.thebig920.com/articles/sport ... -11435924/



Thanks that was pretty detailed and looks like this is sewn up pretty tight. Either murder 1 or conspiracy for murder 1 shoudl be easy to convict.


He is the worst murderer in the history of...murderers.

Why didn't he just broadcast the entire thing on youtube?

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This may have been posted already, but here is the outlined timeline by the prosecution yesterday:


http://www.thebig920.com/articles/sport ... -11435924/



Thanks that was pretty detailed and looks like this is sewn up pretty tight. Either murder 1 or conspiracy for murder 1 shoudl be easy to convict.


He is the worst murderer in the history of...murderers.

Why didn't he just broadcast the entire thing on youtube?

There's still time to find it before the trial.


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This is snowballing quite quickly for young Aaron.


There's a DOMA joke in there somewhere...

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Somewhat lengthy summation of the story up to the moment ... absolutely not my work, just posting here for your reading convenience:

All of this was from his arraignment yesterday.

The charges:

• Murder
• Carrying a firearm without a license
• Possession of a large capacity firearm x2
• Possession of a firearm without and FID card x2


The evidence:

• Victim found 1/2 mile from Hernandez's home w/ numerous gunshot wounds
• 5 .45 caliber shells found at the scene, fired from a semi-auto weapon, based on the locations and distance between them.
• Victim was not robbed, had wallet, keys and phone.
• Keys were to a rental car, registered to Hernandez.
• Phone contained text messages between the victim and Hernandez, within hours of the murder.
• Victim's sister said her brother left at 2:30 AM in a silver Nissan Altima with three people inside
• Hernandez had been renting a Silver Nissan Altima
• Hernandez had known the victim for about a year, The victims girlfriend is the sister of Hernadez's Fiance
• The police went to question Hernandez, Who didn't answer the door. a squad car was placed outside. Eventually Hernandez came out, and told the cops he knew they were they and that he had been watching them on his surveillance system
• A warrant was issued to seize surveillance footage from Hernandez's home.
• Hernandez had recently installed a 14 camera system with cameras inside and out.
• Upon reviewing the footage, they noticed that the first 6-8 hours of footage after the time of the murder was missing.
• at 9:02 PM Hernandez texted a friend from out of state "please make it back"
• 9:05 he texted the victim, indicating he wanted to come by and get together with him
• 9:35 he texted the same out of state friend "get your ass up here" then at 10:23 "hurry your ass up"
• The man he was texting and one other showed up at hernandez's home, seen on surveillance footage
• Shortly after they arrive, Hernandez is seen with a firearm in his home on the surveillance system says "he is upset that he can't trust anyone anymore"
• the three left Hernandez's home at 1:12 AM in the silver Nissan Altima, captured on survelliance, phone records and cell tower
• the went from Hernadez's home to route 95, headed south towards (? couldn't understand) they turned around and went north. the cell phone tower tracked their movement to a gas station off route 128
• at 2:10AM Hernandez bought Gas, Bubbalicious blue cotton candy gum, and black and milds which are used for smoking mariujana (the prosecutor seems to be mistaken about common blunt cigars but oh well)
• Next they went to the victims home, at 2:32 am Hernandez sent a text "we're here" to the victim, this is when the victims sister saw him leave with them, Hernandez was driving
• They drove back to North Attleboro, this is corroborated by some random surveillance cameras and route was determined by time and distance traveled.
• during the ride, Hernandez had a conversation with the victim indicating he was upset with him. The two had gone to a club together friday night.
• he said some things happened that night and he wasn't sure if he could trust the victim, one of them was that the victim had spoken to some people He had troubles with, and he was mad about it.
• At 3:07 AM the victim sent a text to his sister "did you see who I am with" no response he texted again at 3:11 AM "Hello?"
• at 3:19 am his sister replied "who?" at 3:22 the victim texted back "NFL" then 1 minute later "Just so you know"
• at the time of these texts, the car is seen on surveillance cameras in the area of the murder site/Hernandez's home
• Surveillance cameras show the vehicle driving down the road to the murder site at 3:23 AM
• between 3:23 and 3:27 am workers nearby hear multiple gunshots
• cameras pick up the vehicle along the route between the murder site and Hernandez's home at 3:27 and 3:28 AM.
• Hernandez's own Surveillance picks sees him arriving back home at 3:29 AM
• Police confirm it is only a 2 minute drive.
• autopsy found that all evidence was consistent with the victim being murdered where he was found. In other words, he wasn't dumped. Also consistent Time of death to the time the car was there.
• two through and through wounds to the victim's chest. Police returned to the scene and dug where the victim was, they found the bullets, indicating the victim was on the ground when he was shot. Both bullets were .45 caliber, consistent with the casings found. All fired from the same unknown gun
• at 3:30 AM Hernandez is seen with his companions in his driveway, one of whom has a gun.
• they go inside. Surveillance shows Hernandez walking around with a gun in his hand.
• all three go to the basement. Surveillance cameras shut off
• later that day, 5:30 PM Hernandez and his companions return the Nissan Altima to the rental agency, Hernandez offers the attendant Blue Bubbalicious.
• one of the side mirrors is broken on the car, footage of the vehicle earlier in the night suggest it wasn't broken when he left Boston, he tells the rental agency he didn't even notice it. The evidence being that it was broken sometime between leaving Boston and arriving back at home.
• He rents another car and returns home, companions leave.
• At the rental agency, a piece of bubbalicious and a shell casing were found, attendant threw them away. When questioned, she told investigators about it, they found it in the dumpster, Shell casing matched to the murder weapon.
• Tire impressions at the murder scene right next to the body were consistent with a front wheel drive vehicle (altima is FWD)
• Investigators checked out the rental car. Tire treads matched those at the crime scene. Dirt found on the car also matched the crime scene
• They found a .22 nearby in a search of everywhere between Hernandez's home and the murder site. Hernandez a month prior had been involved an altercation in providence Rhode island. He had someone with him who was seen to place a gun under a car. This man matches the description of one of his companions on the night of the murder.
• The gun under the car in Providence was traced to a florida gunstore. The 22 found between Hernandez's home and the murder site was from the same store.
• further search warrant of Hernandez's home ordered. They found 22 ammo, but no 22 gun. They also found a large capacity 7.62 hungarian semi auto rifle, 32 round clip fully loaded. Hernandez's prints on it, he doesn't have the correct paperwork to own it.
• Not recovered was the Black semi auto handgun seen in Hernandez's hand before and after the murder. the second individuals gun not found either.
• Hernandez's girlfriend was spoken to by police, she was cooperating until a call from hernandez telling her not to. She then stopped talking.
• the victim had defensive wounds and seemed to attempt to stop the bullets with his arms.

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• the victim had defensive wounds and seemed to attempt to stop the bullets with his arms.


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Former New England Patriots player Aaron Hernandez is being investigated in connection with a 2012 double murder on Shawmut Avenue, according to two law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation.

Investigators believe a fight broke out at Cure, a club in the South End, between two men and a group that included Hernandez.

The two men, Daniel Abreu and Safiro Furtado, friends who grew up in Cape Verde, left the club with three other men in a BMW sedan.

Abreu, who was driving, stopped at a traffic light on Shawmut Avenue, about to make a left onto Herald Street, when a silver or gray SUV with Rhode Island license plates pulled alongside the sedan. Someone from the SUV opened fire, killing Abreu, 29, and Furtado, 28.
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The men who were with them survived the attack and the killings were left unsolved.

The officials said investigators now believe that Odin Lloyd, the man Hernandez is charged with killing in a North Attleboro industrial park June 17, may have had information about Hernandez’s role in the double slaying.

“The motive might have been that the victim knew [Hernandez] might have been involved,” one of the officials said.

The new revelations raised the specter that Hernandez may have been playing football games last season with the Patriots after he had participated in a double murder.

The attack on Shawmut Avenue occurred just after 2 a.m. on July 16. Police said the shooter fired numerous times into the car, striking Abreu and Furtado, who was in the passenger seat.

One of the back-seat passengers was shot three times in the arm but survived. He was rushed to Tufts Medical Center and was treated and released. The other two occupants fled the car and were unharmed.

The two men’s deaths at the time were a mystery to their families and police, who said they had no ties to criminal activity.

Furtado was a tour guide on the idyllic island of Boa Vista in Cape Verde, where he led a mostly European clientele on jaunts along silky sand dunes, whispering palm trees, and world-class beaches, his family said. He arrived in Dorchester five months before he was killed to reconnect with his mother and sister, whom he had not seen in a decade.

Abreu grew up in Cape Verde, where he worked as a police officer there. He arrived in Dorchester around 2008 and became friends with Furtado. The two men were working together for a cleaning company based on Hamilton Street in Dorchester at the time of their deaths.

Authorities never found the SUV tied to the shooting.

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Tiny, thank you for posting that timeline. I now know everything I need to know about this case.

Wake me up when the verdict is read.

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Tiny, thank you for posting that timeline. I now know everything I need to know about this case.

Wake me up when the verdict is read.

Kid Cairo has me on ignore :(


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Sorry. I've mostly skimmed this thread and you only provided a link. We're good, sir.

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Well, I would like to say that I was wrong. Hernandez is a bad ass full fledged gansta. All reports now make that clear. This was a gang related murder and he probably was involved in that Boston double murder. You guys were right. I was wrong.


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Tiny, thank you for posting that timeline. I now know everything I need to know about this case.

Wake me up when the verdict is read.

Kid Cairo has me on ignore :(


Kid Jr. is not going to like the fact he can't see my avatar.



Sorry ... I saw your link and thought this was different enough to warrant its own post ... didn't mean to step on your Cronkite bits.

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