I have a picture of you and your weirder looking twin flicking off the camera.
And I have a picture of almost every board member flicking off the camera, which means you also have these pictures.
They make me happy.

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All 2 of them got me this great award? I guess my other 30+ comments don't count. I never once on FB or anywhere else made any comments about Zimmerman's race. I've never said if Trayvon were white ____ would have happened and no one that commented said anything like that. It sounds like you just disagreed with me. If you didn't want to share your opinion on FB we have a thread that you could have posted in. IIRC you said you weren't following or didn't know enough. Now that you're up to speed feel free to jump in and save the race baiting bullshit.

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There was a reason for that. A black unarmed kid was murdered and there was no charge. Those boys/men were charged and convicted. Blacks are killed by other races everyday and they don't make the news for the same reason.

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Goddammit Nas...

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Not admitted to jurors: Trayvon Martin is black

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Well I would tell you to go fuck yourself but I know you would enjoy. Next time don't be a pussy and say what you feel. Even if I do disagree I'm generally respectful or better yet just participate in a 16 page thread. Maybe then I could educate you about the reason a lot of black and brown people believe the legal system doesn't care about them. Thanks for sharing!

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Nas is a Master Baiter. But I doubt he is the only Master Baiter on the board.

What are you talking about?

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Nas has actually been on the fence for many issues on this topic, so much, you would think it is starting to hurt.

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I've learned to trust nas.
It's not baiting if you can have a productive conversation. I've had more productive conversations about race with Nas, Kid and Reader than I ever could have with idiots like Steve.

Just listen to what they have to say. Try to see their perspective, even if you don't agree with it, perhaps you might understand why they'd feel that way.

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This

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Every issue isn't simple. I won't agree or disagree based on skin color.

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Dude, no disprespect intended but you're a white guy from Schaumburg. You went to conant. You have been given every advantage possible.
I just don't think you have the perspective to talk about who is an underdog.

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You're not a Master Baiter?

Not disagreeing, and thus my issue with the case that the media played this out under the racial issue, instead of what the law is and how dumb the law is.

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I was referring to FB. I'm betting you cannot named 3 things where I cried "racism". We can have this debate about a legal system that targets minorities. Look no further than the drug laws. I'm very conscious about throwing out racist and racism. In fact I routinely argue against it being thrown out when it doesn't exist. You really should read my posts more.

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I do think a lot of the racial sensitivity with this case was misaligned. Initially, the outrage was because there wasnt going to be a trial. That in and of itself lent the case to a lot of publicity and speculation as to why. That's why this case got as big as it did.

And there wasn't going to be a trial, because no one thought there was a strong case based on the evidence and the law. Not because he was black. But that wasnt properly understood or really properly talked about in the media.

I say this all the time. The drug laws, particularly the crack and cocaine laws, are obviously written to target blacks.

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Dude. You grew up in the suburbs. You didn't dodge bullets on the way to school. You are white. My parents didn't pay for my college. I did. Not even worth $200k? Do you realize what that sounds like? Fuck dude, compare that to people in public fucking housing in the inner city...

Again, I'm not trying to be a dick to you... please don't think that but you are lacking perspective on these issues.
Shit man, I lack perspective on them too. I have no fucking clue what it's like to grow up black in the city going to scary ass schools and/or living in low income or public housing... I honestly don't want to know.

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Relevant to this topic though, I don't think race can be suggested to be a reason the laws in this case are bad. This is an evidence issue.

Perhaps not this exact law but I do believe in the perceptions that there's a lot of laws written to target blacks, and for good goddamn reason, and I'm guessing that this leads to a general mistrust of the system, a system mind you that is dependant upon the citizens having faith in it to do the right thing most of the time.

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I just don't think it applies to this case, which is why the race issue doesn't strike me as relevant here.

Mandatory minimums are inherently racist.

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I can't disagree either. Many blacks and people in general saw this as a another case of their being a different set of rules for blacks. Many believed that if Zimmerman were black the police wouldn't have been so quick to buy his story. I don't know that to be true and never said it but I've seen enough double standards to know that it is true far too often.

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1. You're white.
2. You're male.
3. Solid public education in one of the top school districts in the state, if not one of the top HS's in the nation.
4. You grew up in security (did not fear for your life in school).
5. Not forced into gangs to gain security
6. You don't get racially targeted by the law
7. You're not racially profiled when you go somewhere.
8. I'll bet no one ever followed you while you were shopping.


Look dude, I grew up white, in Schaumburg, with a solid education in the same school district in a broken home but I am at least aware of the tremendous advantages I've been blessed with.

Globally speaking, we're more blessed than 80% of the world population simply because we have clean water to drink.

That's all I have to say man. Again, I am not trying to insult you. I respect you, IMU. It's just my opinion that you might be lacking some perspective in this particular arena... one that I am fully willing to admit that I lack perspective in myself.

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The point I'm trying to make, which I didn't make particularly well, is that the perceived general injustice in the justice system leads to people thinking that perhaps the system might be out to get them, which leads to what might be considered race baiting thoughts?

I probably could have said that better.

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I don't need to bait. I'm always willing to have a respectful discussion about issues of race. I've learned a lot from many of you and my positions have evolved. I don't need to be an asshole to have a debate.

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No, re-reading I get it. My bad.


So yes, definitely reasons in general for those types of feelings. So I get why they would carry over once hearing "black kid killed by non-black dude" and guy not going to jail. I just think when you actually look at it, the laws that are allowing GZ to walk certainly aren't racially charged. It's not the laws here, it's the lack of evidence.

That's the truth. I believe you're right. But the perceptions man... they're everything.

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I just don't think it applies to this case, which is why the race issue doesn't strike me as relevant here.[/quote]

As far as the law goes you are absolutely right. Race played a role because people feel Zimmerman profiled a kid based on their race.

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