I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Dunston was ahead of his time back when strikeouts were considered a bad thing.

I will restrict this to only his guys. Hendry guys that he inherited are not included. I want to keep it to only prospects so, while Ian Stewart has played more minor league than MLB games in the organization, he doesn't make the list. Also, bad free agent signings like Edwin Jackson are not on the list. I have a feeling we will have more than enough of those to start its own thread once Ricketts opens the pocket book. Obviously the prospect thing is fluid. Maybe Rizzo will be different than the player he has shown himself to be in 2 of the 3 seasons he has seen MLB time. So far:

0-1 .000

Rizzo- as bigfan noted when he was acquired, this was Theo's guy. He drafted him and traded for him. This was the guy he knew as well as anyone. He is giving off a Hee Sop Choi vibe.

He barely has enough pitches to get three outs and you want to ask him to get 18?

Addison Reed has thrown 1,754 pitches that have been tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2011 and 2013, including pitches thrown in the MLB Regular Season and Spring Training. In 2013, he has relied primarily on his Fourseam Fastball (94mph) and Slider (85mph)

Again, Castro is not a Theo guy and I get a feeling he is REALLLY not a Theo guy behind the scenes.

Let's focus on Rizzo, a 1B who is going to get you low 20 HRs, a .250 average and below average OBP before he is not offered a contract after his arbitration years are up. That is 0-1.

I agree, but he isn't a Theo guy so stop mucking up my thread. It isn't even worth discussion as Castro will not be the shortstop when they win the world series. If he reverts back to his mean, they will move his ass out of town as quickly as possible.

Rizzo is on pace for 28 HR's and 100 RBI in his first full season and that's a miss?

Think you missed on this one. He needs to keep improving, but I think most franchises would be happy to have him.

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Cashner is a walking arm injury. I'm happy with where Rizzo is right now. At the least it is still a toss-up if not 1 for 1.

You think he's peaking right now then?


BTW, not that WAR is a perfect stat but just to let you know, he's 12th among 1B in MLB.

Also, Joey Votto had 24 HR and 84 RBI in his first full season (albeit with a higher average)

The guy is quickly approaching 1,000 MLB at bats. I think that gets you into "this is who he is" territory.

He's yet to play 100 games in a season.

I make a motion to dismiss on the basis of ridiculousness.

Games played is far less relevant than plate appearances. Motion denied with a warning from the bench about filing frivolous motions.

And RPB, I want to point out that the way I'm reading this thread, Sarley is going to be disappointed if Bryant is Kelly Gruber. That's crazy. Kelly Gruber was a good player. Realistically, Bryant is more likely to be Brooks Kieschnick. Just getting that out there for the next time it comes and and someone says "Cub fans don't think that".

Rizzo = Adam LaRoche
Castro = Shawon Dunston
Bryant = Kelly Gruber
Baez = Ozzie Guillen
Almora = David DeJesus
Soler = Dayan Viciedo

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I don't waste my time with the Cubs.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

I strenuously motion.

PA that are spread over 3 seasons are different. A player needs to be able to play a season, make adjustments, and improve. I'd withhold judgement on him until next year after he's gone through an entire process, season, from beginning to end and knows what it takes for next year to prepare himself and the adjustments he'll need to make.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

as a point of reference, here are my comps for Cardinal prospects:

Oscar Taveras: Vladimir Guerrero
Kolten Wong: Ray Durham
Shelby Miller: Roy Oswalt
Trevor Rosenthal: John Smoltz
Michael Wacha: AJ Burnett

No Homer

OK, but you're also the same guy who wanted to give Weber close to a decade to prove he could recruit in the Big 10. To say that the Dr. Ken evaluation schedule is a bit slow would be a massive understatement. Nothing makes Dr. Ken so happy as fantasies about the unblemished if poorly defined future.

I've been a Cub fan for 37 years.

In much the same way I've been reading your posts for 7 years, patience is necessary.

What team did you root for the first 33 years of your life?

Sale= Mark Langston
Viciedo= Pedro Cerrano
Courtney Hawkins= Ken Williams
Trayce Thompson= Ken Williams
Carlos Sanchez= Alex Gonzalez (any of them)
Tim Anderson= Tony Womack