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Here's a VERY optimistic view from our guy Brett Taylor. I hope all of this is true. Especially if they really planned to trade their large pool next year for major league ready players. At least as a backup.



Loopholing an Explanation for the Cubs’ International Spending Approach
By Brett on July 4, 2013

wallet cashFor the past couple of days, nerdy folks like me have been taking to our calculators to obsess over the Chicago Cubs’ reported 2013-14 international free agent signings.

It’s been a while since I’ve been in a math class, but I know how to use the plus button, and I couldn’t quite square what the Cubs were doing. With a number of top tier talents reportedly signed by – or “agreed to terms with” – the Cubs this week, the organization was set to blow far past its allotted international signing pool.

As I wrote last night:

After signing Torres, Moreno, and Mejia for $3.35 million, and after netting $963,000 extra to their $4,557,200 bonus pool yesterday via trades, the Cubs had about $2,446,210 left to spend, after considering the 5% they can go over without incurring dramatic penalties. With Matos getting $270,000, the Cubs are down to approximately $2,176,210, give or take a few bucks.

Thus, ostensibly, the Jimenez signing would put the Cubs way over their limit. In fact, they’d be so over the limit (more than 15%, by my quick calculation) that they’d be exposed to the most severe penalty: a 100% tax on the overage and (worse) the inability to sign any prospects for more than $250,000 for the next signing period.

The logical conclusion, then, was that some of these players weren’t yet “signed,” and the Cubs would be sure to acquire more pool space before officially signing these guys so that they didn’t blow the budget and become subjected to such a severe spending restriction next year. After all, we know two things to be unequivocally true about this front office: (1) they aren’t stupid, and (2) they aren’t going to sit out an opportunity to accumulate young talent.

But then rumors started circulating this morning that the Cubs were planning to go after even more expensive international talent this year (those rumors came from Phil Rogers, who deserves credit for getting this line of thinking started). Indeed, that rumor had the Cubs going after so much more international talent that, even if they added the 50% extra pool space that is permitted under the rules, they would *still* blow well past their budget, and would be subject to a 100% tax on the overage and the restricted ability to sign any individual player for more than $250,000.

Why would the Cubs do that to themselves? They’re going to have a huge pool again next year thanks to the poor big league performance, and the best international players get bonuses in excess of $250,000. In effect, the Cubs will have to sit out on all of the big names next year if they blow their budget this year. There’s no way they’d willingly do that, right?

Actually, yeah. They might. And it’s potentially genius.

Let’s imagine that the Cubs really liked this year’s international crop. Given how quickly, aggressively, and expansively they’ve gone after players, I’d say that’s a safe bet. Imagine further that the Cubs aren’t quite as enamored by next year’s crop – that’s not a requirement for this theory, but it certainly helps.

Against that backdrop, the Cubs decide to go hog wild spending this year. Yes, it will mean a huge overage tax and the inability to buy the big boys next year, but the Cubs love this year’s group, so it’s worth it in their eyes. Essentially, then, there are no spending restrictions for the Cubs this year – even if every other team is feeling the pinch of those restrictions. That creates inefficiency. That creates opportunity.

Going nuts this year costs the Cubs only one thing. And it’s the one thing they have that the new guys haven’t yet been able to leverage: money.

Back in the pre-new-CBA days, Theo Epstein’s regime was notorious for spending heavily on the amateur side. But, by the time he came to the Cubs, the ability to do that in the Draft was swiftly foreclosed. In the international market, restrictions also went into place, but under the approach the Cubs may now taking, those restrictions could work to their advantage.

Well, what about the signing restrictions for next year, you ask. Now the Cubs can’t sign any big names, and they’ve got this huge pool of money that they can’t really use effectively (yeah, they can spread it around to a bunch of $250,000 guys, but there are only so many talents at that precise level, and the Cubs aren’t going to get them all – the punishment is supposed to be restrictive, and it is). What a waste, right?

Nope. Here’s the loophole I see (assuming I’m reading the CBA correctly, and I don’t see this as being prohibited): if the Cubs decide they can’t effectively use their entire bonus pool next year because of the $250,000 restriction, they can trade pool space for players or prospects.

Think about what has happened by the end of this approach. The Cubs got to sign anyone and everyone they wanted in the 2013-14 international class. No real restrictions. Then, in 2014-15, they can sign their normal fill of low bonus, diamond-in-the-rough types, and use their big pool money to, essentially, buy players or prospects. By signing enough big-timers this year, the Cubs can more than overcome whatever they might lose in prospects next year. And then they can further make up for that loss by trading pool space.

All they’ve lost in this process is the one thing they’re happy to throw around: extra money.

In this way, the Cubs are converting the cash they’d like to be able to spend on the amateur side – but can’t, because of various restrictions – into a huge number of international prospects this year, and then (hopefully) some players or prospects next year. The key is that, even if you get penalized this year, your bonus pool next year does not go away. The pool remains an asset that you can use in trades next year.

This approach is exquisite, and brilliant, and perfectly aligned with what this front office is about.

(If you want to get very detailed about all of this, you’ll note that, because of the no-international-draft-poison-pill the MLBPA and MLB planted earlier this year, if you were going to blow your budget, this was the year to do it. If you do it next year, the penalties become much more harsh. These guys are just so freaking smart.)

Ok. Now that you understand the loophole, you’re all wondering one thing: if the Cubs were planning to blow past the budget anyway, what’s up with the trades they’ve made?

I think I can explain them all.

The Ronald Torreyes for of pool space $800,000: If the Cubs were going to blow the budget, why ship off a promising youngster for pool money the Cubs weren’t going to use anyway? Well, it’s probably pretty simple. If the Cubs blow past the budget, then every dollar of pool space they acquire is a dollar they don’t have to spend in tax. In that way, if the Cubs do use the approach I described above, they just sold Torreyes for $800,000 in actual cash. We can debate whether he was worth more, but he’s a small, flawed prospect at a position in the Cubs’ organization (second base) that’s likely to become very crowded. His future was, at best, unclear, and if the Cubs didn’t believe his extreme hit tool would overcome all of the other issues, they were probably happy to sell him for some cash. (The added pool space also provided them cover if they couldn’t get all of the international prospects they wanted to sign. In that event, they could stay under their cap, and now blow the budget for guys they didn’t really want in the first place.)

Acquiring pool space in the Scott Feldman/Steve Clevenger deal: Given my feelings on the value of pool space, the approximately $400,000 in pool space that the Cubs picked up from the Orioles in the Feldman/Clevenger trade never struck me as all that valuable. Folks on all corners of the ‘net tried to convince you that the $400K – not even a 10% bump in the Cubs’ pool – was the entire thrust of the deal. No way. The Cubs, I suspect, actually really liked Jake Arrieta and Pedro Strop, and were willing to take a shot on them rather than the maybe-far-less-than-we-all-expected prospect packages they were offered. So, what was the pool space about? Well, I mean, the Cubs wanted it. It’s not like it’s worthless. Given the Torreyes description there, it was probably worth about $400,000 in real money to the Cubs. That’s a lot of dough, when you think about it. But in a big baseball trade, it’s a throw-in. That’s probably all this was. (With the caveat, once again, that more pool space gives the Cubs some cover if their SIGN ALL THE PLAYERS plan didn’t work out when it was time to put pen to paper.)

Sending $210,000 in pool space to the Dodgers in the Carlos Marmol trade: This makes a whole lot more sense now, doesn’t it? The pool space was only worth $210,000 of real cash to the Cubs, since they were going to blow the budget anyway. And since the Cubs saved $500,000 in the deal, they netted $290,000 in actual savings (assuming Marmol isn’t ultimately dropped, and then signs with another team, in which case it has been reported that the Cubs owe the Dodgers some more cash). Pretty simply explanation, and pretty logical, too.

So, there you have it. We’ll see if the Cubs’ approach actually bears this all out, but I now wouldn’t be at all surprised to see them nabbing some bigger names. In fact, it’s what I really hope to see now. I’m not in the front office, and I don’t know everything they know, but on paper here, this strategy looks pretty damn good.

Here’s hoping it happens, and that it works.

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Thanks for the article. Good read. My only gripe which you mentioned is the over-the-top praise. Unfortunately, now the whole fan base will be characterized by his optimism.


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Another of the conned.

And maybe conns'd.

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His theory on their strategy is a sound one. But, like everything else, the execution is a different discussion. The bashing will come if the result fails even though the process was clever.


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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Another of the conned.

And maybe conns'd.

Don't you have Avisail Garcia YouTube videos to watch?


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Kirkwood wrote:
His theory on their strategy is a sound one. But, like everything else, the execution is a different discussion. The bashing will come if the result fails even though the process was clever.


Sure.

Plans are easy.

Getting the results are the hard part.

I do hope for a select few Cubs fans that they do get it right.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Thanks for the article. Good read. My only gripe which you mentioned is the over-the-top praise. Unfortunately, now the whole fan base will be characterized by his optimism.


I'm not even worried about the optimism. It feels like spin to me. But his coverage is amazing.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
His theory on their strategy is a sound one. But, like everything else, the execution is a different discussion. The bashing will come if the result fails even though the process was clever.


Sure.

Plans are easy.

Getting the results are the hard part.

I do hope for a select few Cubs fans that they do get it right.

Thanks for your well wishes

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
His theory on their strategy is a sound one. But, like everything else, the execution is a different discussion. The bashing will come if the result fails even though the process was clever.


Sure.

Plans are easy.

Getting the results are the hard part.

I do hope for a select few Cubs fans that they do get it right.

Thanks for your well wishes

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The guy that wrote that seems to be twisting himself into pretzels to justify every single thing TheoandJed have done. When he gets to something that doesn't fit into his "theory", he finds another tortured justification to explain it away. Awesome!

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Speaking of blogs, there seems to be shitloads of Cubs blogs but virtually none for the Sox.

Why is that??

Was TV that powerful in the 70's & the 80's that the Cubs were seemingly imbedded into our consciousness while the Sox went by the wayside and now there seems to be at minimum 5 Cubs fans per every 1 Sox fan??

And that is a very conservative estimate when factoring in transplanted Chicagoans.

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That was a very long read that can be summed up as:

I LOVE THEO AND JED!!

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As nice as it is to see the agressive approach internationally, it also must be said that Ricketts did not cough up the cash for Darvish, Puig or Cespedes.


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As nice as it is to see the agressive approach internationally, it also must be said that Ricketts did not cough up the cash for Darvish, Puig or Cespedes.


That seems to be another problem with the "theory".

"All they’ve lost in this process is the one thing they’re happy to throw around: extra money."

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The guy that wrote that seems to be twisting himself into pretzels to justify every single thing TheoandJed have done. When he gets to something that doesn't fit into his "theory", he finds another tortured justification to explain it away. Awesome!

I have to agree.

It seems he starts from the position of "Well Theo is really smart so this must be a brilliant move, lets figure out how...."


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I'm losing patience with TheoJed more because of all the blind cheerleading rather than their actual plan. I still think they are on the right track but the love of it is so over the top.

The Ricketts do not have extra money to throw around. They have yet to show that once.

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so which one is it?

Do they want the pool space or did they like the prospects in the Feldman trade? WHICH IS IT?!

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They also just missed out on Cuban defector RHP Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez who signed with the Phillies for $50M.


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If they knew they were going to get taxed at 100%, then the slots they traded for saved them money. As far as the penalties for next year, the prospects are 16 years old -- missing a year isn't going to kill them in the near future.

I don't think the Cubs thought Eloy Jimenez was going to sign with them because he was offered considerably more by another team. They went and offered up the rest of the money to other prospects and maxed out their pool. Then Jimenez came to them and accepted their lower offer, which backed the Cubs into a corner. They decided they would rather keep face in the international community by standing behind all of their offers and ended up going way over their budget. They may be out of it for next year, but the international prospect community will still have a high opinion of the organization which is more important long term than losing a couple million dollars.


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I thought the whole point of pool money acquisition was not to get taxed at 100%, not save the money they're initially investing. Now this writer tries to do backflips to get to a conclusion that they were interested in the prospects. WYC.

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So, the expectation is the Cubs have to sign every international free agent not subject to slot rules? I must've missed where the other 29 teams aren't allowed to bid.


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So, the expectation is the Cubs have to sign every international free agent not subject to slot rules? I must've missed where the other 29 teams aren't allowed to bid.


I don't care if they didn't sign them because they aren't worth the money. I have a problem if they wanted the player, but were told there isn't enough money.

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Speaking of blogs, there seems to be shitloads of Cubs blogs but virtually none for the Sox.

Why is that??

Was TV that powerful in the 70's & the 80's that the Cubs were seemingly imbedded into our consciousness while the Sox went by the wayside and now there seems to be at minimum 5 Cubs fans per every 1 Sox fan??

And that is a very conservative estimate when factoring in transplanted Chicagoans.

Just askin'


How many are actually good blogs regarding the Cubs? Maybe 3 at the most?....I haven't really checked. Look at "Bleed Cubbie Blue". Talk about a dumpster fire.

Spiegs has mentioned South Side Sox quite a bit. They interviewed the guy the other day. He was solid.


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I've noticed there are some blurred lines when it comes to international spending. You know you want it, you know you need it. If one of these guys works out, Jack Brickhouse would be yelling "HEY HEY HEY!"

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I've noticed there are some blurred lines when it comes to international spending. You know you want it, you know you need it. If one of these guys works out, Jack Brickhouse would be yelling "HEY HEY HEY!"

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I've noticed there are some blurred lines when it comes to international spending. You know you want it, you know you need it. If one of these guys works out, Jack Brickhouse would be yelling "HEY HEY HEY!"

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How dare you! He's an American treasure, and he's currently producing a remix of Big Show's music. Gonna domesticate Show.

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How dare you! He's an American treasure, and he's currently producing a remix of Big Show's music. Gonna domesticate Show.

American?

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How dare you! He's an American treasure, and he's currently producing a remix of Big Show's music. Gonna domesticate Show.

American?


Edit: Canadian Treasure. Jerkstore.

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