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so Colon squeaks by and Boers and Bernstein are wrong again...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:39 pm 
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Does Biogenesis only sell things in Spanish?


And Hebrew.

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Ideally Arod gets suspended for life but the Yankees have to pay him every penny, not that that's a possible outcome. The MLB "leaks" are bullshit and Arod needs to shut up. How do you trust either Bud Selig or Arod? You can't.


All of these are suspensions without pay, I believe.

Yep, hence the "not that that's a possible outcome." I'd like the Tankees to get hosed.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:49 pm 
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KDdidit wrote:
Ideally Arod gets suspended for life but the Yankees have to pay him every penny, not that that's a possible outcome. The MLB "leaks" are bullshit and Arod needs to shut up. How do you trust either Bud Selig or Arod? You can't.


I agree 100%

That would totally be ideal and I would also love it if these teams had to pay the busted players, as well. It would help shake the environment up and put some of the onus on the teams themselves.

And fuck Selig, he's a rat bastard. I'm sure he turned a blind eye at best to this crap for years and at worst he out and out buried/colluded with players/teams to bury info. This info and such doesn't leak on accident.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:50 pm 
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How would paying players for these suspensions be a good thing? I am not an Arod or Yankees fan, but its silly to make the Yankees pay for his entire contract while he's suspended (or banned for life).

If you want to put the onus on the teams, make the Yankees play with a 24 man roster for the duration of Arod's suspension. If its a lifetime ban, they can play the rest of this season with 24.

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How would paying players for these suspensions be a good thing? I am not an Arod or Yankees fan, but its silly to make the Yankees pay for his entire contract while he's suspended (or banned for life).

If you want to put the onus on the teams, make the Yankees play with a 24 man roster for the duration of Arod's suspension. If its a lifetime ban, they can play the rest of this season with 24.


It wouldn't be good for the team itself, maybe have the pay go somewhere else and not to said player? It might make teams pay a bit more attention to what their players are doing and possibly make them self police when it comes to PEDs. I'm sure the players union and teams themselves wouldn't be a big fan of the idea.

I don't know, just a thought.


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You would have the Yankees pay because they knew he was roiding and signed him anyway.


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You would have the Yankees pay because they knew he was roiding and signed him anyway.


Bingo. The teams can sign guys they know are juiced, use them up, reap the rewards and when they get busted they don't have to pay them or face any other consequences. Now the teams and players have some skin in the game.

Yes the fallout is the player in question is suspended for 50 games but the team capitalized while they could and benefited from it.


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I don't necessarily disagree with you guys, but there is no way that MLB would ever do something like that, and it certainly would not hold up in court.

I think the biggest punishment you could do for a team is to make the play with a 24 (or 24 or 23!) man roster while the players(s) is/are suspended. That would hurt the team, his former teammates, his reputation among his peers, and his potential value in trades or the free ajent market down the road.

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I don't necessarily disagree with you guys, but there is no way that MLB would ever do something like that, and it certainly would not hold up in court.

I think the biggest punishment you could do for a team is to make the play with a 24 (or 24 or 23!) man roster while the players(s) is/are suspended. That would hurt the team, his former teammates, his reputation among his peers, and his potential value in trades or the free ajent market down the road.


That would be a thing to have them have to play a man down, either way it would be nice to see teams and players have punishments due.


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Oh Alex...

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He's really never going to play again. I could imagine a rash of beanballs thrown right at his cranium.

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How the Yankees could allow him to put on a uniform, I don't know.

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What a fucking weasel he is . Not really surprising though.

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And now after all this we are going to get a full Armstrong like confession from this piece of fucking shit.



With Alex Rodriguez dominating the headlines following his return to the field and the announcement that he would be allowed to continue playing until the appeals process began for his 211-game suspension is head, the name of Ryan Braun has quietly of faded into the background.
That was until Friday. First we heard Braun mentioned as one of the names that "60 Minutes" reports Alex Rodriguez's inner circle leaked to Yahoo! Sports in an attempt to take the focus off A-Rod in the Biogenesis scandal. Later in the day it was reported that Braun is being sued for defamation by Ralph Sasson, who is described as "a lifelong friend"of Braun's. Our own David Brown has the incredible details of that developing story.
Now comes a report from USA Today's Bob Nightengale that states Braun is ready to come clean on his performance-enhancing drug use during his MVP season 2011, and will also apologize for the deceptions during the process and after his positive test for testosterone in 2011 was overturned.
Here's more from Nightengale's report:
Braun, according to people who are familiar with his plans, is ready to soon admit that he used performance-enhancing drugs in parts of the 2011 season, the reasons why he did it, and publicly apologize for the lies and deception.
His people familiar with the plans, who spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because Braun has yet to make the announcement, said he has begun sending apologies to baseball officials, and is expected to express remorse in the statement. It's unclear what specifics will be in the statement.
And, for the first time, he will admit guilt.
If the report is proven to be true, perhaps Braun finally realized that it's time to start rebuilding bridges before all those that surround him burn out. In many cases it's probably too late — like with Ralph Sasson, for example — but he has to start somewhere, and there's no better time than now if that's indeed the direction he's leaning.
As always, stay tuned for the latest on this developing story. I'm sure there will be a lot more to come in the days and perhaps even weeks ahead if Braun enters full fledged damage control mode.

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That Braun apology presser will be a hoot! What an asshole. Typical Brewer.

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Typical Brewer.



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Typical Brewer.



:evil:

:evil: :evil:



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CM Punk gave his opinion on Braun and pretty much told him to STFU.

Miguel Tejada of the Royals just got popped for 105 games. I didn't even know he was still in the league.

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Is Brendan Shannahan in charge of MLB suspensions?


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Tejada got popped for Adderol. Man, I guess he was just going to try anything eventually. Maybe he got it from Allmendinger's doctor.

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Tejada got popped for Adderol. Man, I guess he was just going to try anything eventually. Maybe he got it from Allmendinger's doctor.

TejEda

Tejada had claimed to have been born in 1976 when a Dominican birth certificate showed that he was born in 1974. That birth certificate also shows the spelling of his surname as "Tejeda" rather than "Tejada".[22][31] He struggled to take off his microphone and kept questioning who the interviewer was referring to. Tejada stormed off the set, ending the interview.


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The other shoe has dropped. Of course this lying piece of shit pussy is doing his mea culpa via a statement through the Brewers instead of a presser in front of the media which he seemed to have no problem doing when lying about his innocence. What a gutless fucking turd he is.

A month after acknowledging only that he made ''mistakes,'' Ryan Braun admitted taking performance-enhancing drugs during his NL MVP season of 2011.
The suspended Milwaukee slugger said he took a cream and a lozenge containing banned substances while rehabilitating an injury.
''It was a huge mistake for which I am deeply ashamed and I compounded the situation by not admitting my mistakes immediately,'' Braun said in a statement released by the Brewers.
Braun tested positive for elevated testosterone in October 2011, but his 50-game suspension was overturned when an arbitrator ruled that the urine sample was mishandled.
While Braun took full responsibility for his actions and apologized to the collector of the urine sample, teammates and Commissioner Bud Selig among others, the statement still leaves several key questions unanswered.
Among them: Who gave Braun the PEDs and where did they come from? What was the exact substance in the products? Did he know the cream and lozenge were tainted at the time he took them?
Last month Braun accepted a 65-game suspension resulting from Major League Baseball's investigation of the now-closed Biogenesis of America anti-aging clinic, which was accused of providing banned substances to players..
''By coming forward when I did and waiving my right to appeal any sanctions that were going to be imposed, I knew I was making the correct decision and taking the first step in the right direction. It was important to me to begin my suspension immediately to minimize the burden on everyone I had so negatively affected - my teammates, the entire Brewers organization, the fans and all of MLB.''
Braun was the first of 14 players disciplined this year as a result of the Biogenesis probe. Twelve accepted 50-game penalties, including a trio of All-Stars: Texas outfielder Nelson Cruz, Detroit shortstop Jhonny Peralta and San Diego shortstop Everth Cabrera.
Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez is appealing his 211-game penalty, assessed for violations of the drug program and labor contract.
In his initial meeting with MLB investigators to discuss Biogenesis, Braun declined to answer questions. But in the statement, he said he initiated a second session with MLB where he admitted his guilt and began discussing a penalty.
''After my interview with MLB in late June of this year, I came to the realization that it was time to come to grips with the truth,'' he said. ''I was never presented with baseball's evidence against me, but I didn't need to be, because I knew what I had done.''
Braun's urine tested positive for elevated testosterone from a sample collected on Saturday, Oct. 1, 2011, after Milwaukee's NL division series opener against Arizona. The drug collector, Dino Laurenzi Jr., stored the samples from Braun and two other players at home and dropped them off at a Federal Express office on Monday, rather than send them immediately, as specified in baseball's drug collection rules.
The players' association argued that the specimen was handled improperly, and arbitrator Shyam Das overturned the discipline on Feb. 23 last year.
During a news conference the following day on the field at Milwaukee's spring training stadium in Phoenix, Braun proclaimed he had been vindicated and afterward his lawyer criticized Laurenzi when he defended himself.
''I have no one to blame but myself. I know that over the last year and a half I made some serious mistakes, both in the information I failed to share during my arbitration hearing and the comments I made to the press afterwards,'' Braun said. ''I have disappointed the people closest to me - the ones who fought for me because they truly believed me all along. I kept the truth from everyone. For a long time, I was in denial and convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong.''
After he accepted his suspension on July 22 - 50 games for the drug infraction and 15 games for his conduct at the time of the grievance - Braun was heavily criticized by players around the major leagues.
''I thought this whole thing has been despicable on his part,'' Detroit pitcher Max Scherzer said. ''When he did get caught, he never came clean. He tried to question the ability of the collector when he was caught red-handed. So that's why the whole Braun situation, there is so much player outrage toward him.''
But on Thursday, San Francisco Giants manager Bruce Bochy said it's time to get past this.
''To me, it doesn't really matter what they say. Let's lay down the penalties and move on,'' he said. ''I hope they continue to catch them.''

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:56 am 
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Braun, has finally spoke. I find one of the more interesting things is that he and his fiancee had dinner at the pee test guys house last night, that guy is a pretty forgiving person:


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