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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:53 pm 
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Looks like it's here to stay. There is a Thursday night game for every week except for the last two weeks of the season.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:57 pm 
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I really don't care for TNF. Occasionally, sure. Not every week.

I actually like when they have Saturday games after College Football's regular season ends.


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Thursday nights should be for reading scripture....not watching football.

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NFL could spread out the season, have each team play only every other week, and have a game every night of the week. They would still dominate the ratings every night and have the season last 36-40 weeks


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We all understand that this was done to ensure the NFL Network would be a required station on all cable plans, right?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:32 pm 
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newper wrote:
We all understand that this was done to ensure the NFL Network would be a required station on all cable plans, right?


Yes


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Colonel Angus wrote:
I really don't care for TNF. Occasionally, sure. Not every week.

I actually like when they have Saturday games after College Football's regular season ends.


Im more for the Saturday games at the end of the year, I wish the only Thursday games were the opener and Thanksgiving


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I like Sunday noon games. That's it.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:28 am 
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I like it.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:42 am 
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Keep blowing up the Sports Cable Bubble. It can't possibly pop!

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Curious Hair wrote:
Keep blowing up the Sports Cable Bubble. It can't possibly pop!


Yeah,over saturation. My "mood" for football rests entirely on how the Bears did that week. If they lose,then I don't usually watch any more games. If they win,I'm in the mood for the next game. Thursday night football depends on what shows are opposite it.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Keep blowing up the Sports Cable Bubble. It can't possibly pop!
It won't pop. It is the last line of defense for cable companies. It will only get bigger. It's going to be much harder to create a netflix for live events especially when there is no real benefit for the companies who own the live events to do it.

By the way, thanks for help paying for my college sports viewing habits!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:22 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Keep blowing up the Sports Cable Bubble. It can't possibly pop!
It won't pop. It is the last line of defense for cable companies. It will only get bigger. It's going to be much harder to create a netflix for live events especially when there is no real benefit for the companies who own the live events to do it.

By the way, thanks for help paying for my college sports viewing habits!


It already popped in San Diego, didn't it?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Keep blowing up the Sports Cable Bubble. It can't possibly pop!
It won't pop. It is the last line of defense for cable companies. It will only get bigger. It's going to be much harder to create a netflix for live events especially when there is no real benefit for the companies who own the live events to do it.

By the way, thanks for help paying for my college sports viewing habits!


It already popped in San Diego, didn't it?
I don't think so. Some properties are more valuable than others.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It already popped in San Diego, didn't it?
I don't think so. Some properties are more valuable than others.


Obviously true, but they all have limitations. It just so happens that in San Diego a baseball operator was able to oversell his property.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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It already popped in San Diego, didn't it?
I don't think so. Some properties are more valuable than others.


Obviously true, but they all have limitations. It just so happens that in San Diego a baseball operator was able to oversell his property.
I don't know that much about what happened in San Diego besides difficulty in getting a deal but sports are still the most valuable asset possible for cable companies and it's only going to get worse as Amazon and Netflix continue to erode the reasons people need cable at all.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It already popped in San Diego, didn't it?
I don't think so. Some properties are more valuable than others.


Obviously true, but they all have limitations. It just so happens that in San Diego a baseball operator was able to oversell his property.
I don't know that much about what happened in San Diego besides difficulty in getting a deal but sports are still the most valuable asset possible for cable companies and it's only going to get worse as Amazon and Netflix continue to erode the reasons people need cable at all.


I'm not one percent sure what happened either. But I know Jeff Moorad cut a ridiculous deal that has become the benchmark for baseball TV deals in other markets. I believe that caused Time Warner to raise the price for their basic package so high that many people didn't want to pay it. It's the Padres, not the Yankees.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm not one percent sure what happened either. But I know Jeff Moorad cut a ridiculous deal that has become the benchmark for baseball TV deals in other markets. I believe that caused Time Warner to raise the price for their basic package so high that many people didn't want to pay it. It's the Padres, not the Yankees.


That probably should be filed in the Time Warner office under do market research first.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's going to be much harder to create a netflix for live events especially when there is no real benefit for the companies who own the live events to do it.
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I disagree with this.

I think there will be an All sports type package in the next 5 years that wipes out cable.

Im sure benefits for the owners will be found or fabricated


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm not one percent sure what happened either. But I know Jeff Moorad cut a ridiculous deal that has become the benchmark for baseball TV deals in other markets. I believe that caused Time Warner to raise the price for their basic package so high that many people didn't want to pay it. It's the Padres, not the Yankees.
I think that sounds more like a bad deal. When the Cubs television deal comes up I think we'll see that it is still business as usual.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's going to be much harder to create a netflix for live events especially when there is no real benefit for the companies who own the live events to do it.
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I disagree with this.

I think there will be an All sports type package in the next 5 years that wipes out cable.

Im sure benefits for the owners will be found or fabricated
Well, eventually that will happen, but the cable companies can protect against that by offering more money and keeping it exclusive to them. With the amount of money the sports leagues are making they aren't going to mess that up. Even the Big Ten, which literally started it's own network and helped expand this type of stuff greatly, still sells off most of the things that are actually valuable to ESPN and CBS. There is a value not only in selling to people who want your product, but to people like Curious Hair who is too much of an intellectual to watch college sports.

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I would rather pay extra for NHL Gamecenter to include the Blackhawks than pay for basic cable.

I can't believe anyone thinks these good times are going to last forever. When do they ever?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm not one percent sure what happened either. But I know Jeff Moorad cut a ridiculous deal that has become the benchmark for baseball TV deals in other markets. I believe that caused Time Warner to raise the price for their basic package so high that many people didn't want to pay it. It's the Padres, not the Yankees.


That probably should be filed in the Time Warner office under do market research first.


Or to simply remove Fox Sports from the package, which is what I believe happened.

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I would rather pay extra for NHL Gamecenter to include the Blackhawks than pay for basic cable.
Of course you would and that is why you won't have that option for a long time.
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I can't believe anyone thinks these good times are going to last forever. When do they ever?
Not forever, but cable is going to become a sports delivery system. If you like sports, it will last a long time.

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When the Cubs television deal comes up I think we'll see that it is still business as usual.


Ricketts is counting on it, that's for sure.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
When the Cubs television deal comes up I think we'll see that it is still business as usual.


Ricketts is counting on it, that's for sure.


He'll do something to fuck it up. Leave it to these idiots to leave a superstation so they can start Cubs Public Access. Actually, I hope they give a nod to their golden-goose-slaying and call it ON TV.

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