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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:36 am 
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There are little things you can do to affect the race but they were just so damn blatant with the absurd pitting and even the specific mentioning of the 1 pt Truex would get out of the green flag stops.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:43 am 
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Do any of you think this is the first time this has ever gone on? Everyone knew it in the past, I just don't like how now all of the sudden the rules change.

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Bowyer says it was not intentional:


http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/st ... hmond-race

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And again, I need to ask why Hendrick wasn't penalized for Kahne and Junior's inexplicable slide down the leaderboard late in the race.

You don't penalize the Golden Program. :roll:

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There certainly is some tomfoolery but if NASCAR wanted to fix my guy jr would be on championship #3 and Danica in chase.

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Nascar has totally fucked themselves with this, now I read earlier where NAPA and 5 hour energy are looing at their sponsorships with Nascar. What a bunch of fucking idiots, but why am I surprised.

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If they had a rule that you must win a race to qualify for the chase this all would be completely avoided. 12 drivers won a race this year. Make winning a race worth a shit ton more bonus points and require 1 win to qualify. Then the worst they would do with all the shenanigans is maybe affect where you are in the chase standings which really isn't that big of a deal.

Chase under my win qualifier stipulation.

Kenseth
JJ
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Mr.EDwards
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Truex

Didn't make enough starts or were too low in the standings despite a win
Stewart
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Maybe you can throw the highest pts finishers in as wild cards but they MUST win a chase race to be eligible for the championship trophy.

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:lol: :lol: :lol:


Could they look any dumber???

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Could they look any dumber???



More importantly, could I look any smarter? 8)

Yes, Pete nice call

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Is this a joke?

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Is this a joke?

Yes, Nascar is.

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Nice work, Pete PiKStone.

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This is ridiculous.

This could be a week that destroys NASCAR. This is stupid. If Jeff Gordon wins The Chase, this sport is over.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
This is ridiculous.

This could be a week that destroys NASCAR. This is stupid. If Jeff Gordon wins The Chase, this sport is over.

Dale Sr. is doing somersaults in his grave.

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I think everyone needs to get together and pray that Dale Jr. wins The Chase. It's the only thing that can save us now.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I think everyone needs to get together and pray that Dale Jr. wins The Chase. It's the only thing that can save us now.

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This is really dumb.

That is all.

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I realize that "many factors worked against Gordon", but he also had two very big factors (Junior and Kahne) slide down the leaderboard - inexplicably - late in that race.

Nobody seems to mention that.


If I see you disparage Kasey Kahne one more time between now and Homestead, there's going to be trouble.

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Still kind of correct.

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Wow. While I like seeing Jeffy in the chase (though i wish the big nerd who has zero fans Logano was out) this pretty much takes away all credibility NASCAR had left. Not that they had much left after giving Danica the pole to drum up viewers.

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Vickers defended his actions in a commentary Friday in USA Today. Vickers wrote:

“My interpretation of the rules is as follows: I'm driving the car and can drive it how I like — pit when we like, pass whomever I want and let whomever I want to pass me, whenever I want to,’’ Vickers wrote. “If those are not the rules, and if my team and I are not in control of our car and our race, and if we have to race how we're told and pit when we are told, then someone needs to clarify that and define the rules as such, including who would tell us.

“There is currently no rule that states you can't help a teammate or give a teammate your position if you choose. If we as competitors and fans of this amazing sport would like to have that rule, then let's write it. Maybe something to the effect of: "No two or more cars of the same owner may take any action that supports or helps his teammate by any means." Now before the pendulum swings in that direction, it is important to acknowledge that this is a very slippery slope and would be extremely difficult to police.’’


He's right on the money.

This is the equivalent of a team in MLB playing it's reserves down the stretch to keep a team out of the playoffs and MLB stepping in and letting said team in the playoffs anyway.

Come to think of it, how in the hell hasn't Bud Selig done something this idiotic first?

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Truex has to be pissed.

Neither he nor his team did anything wrong and they are left out while Gordon gets put in.

NASCAR is a joke.

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what Vickers is saying is wrong and it is equal to anyone in any other sport having the free will to lay down and directly affect an outcome. A baseball team playing rooks and trading its vets down the stretch would be the same as silly season changes. The equivalent to what Vickers is saying is for a team to stand there and take 27 strikeouts looking in order to guarantee a win for the betterment of someone else. Your free will to do anything can not compromise the "integrity" of the sport. This will change the game. The chase will be done away with in its current format now.

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Good god Mikey.....shut the fuck up with your playing stupid (stupider than you normally come off as) act. I thought he was about to cry during the truck race wrap up on Fox Sports 1. You know damn well what your team did just like you knew damn well what they did when they tried to put illegal rocket fuel in the gas tanks at Daytona years ago.

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Truex has to be pissed.

Neither he nor his team did anything wrong and they are left out while Gordon gets put in.

NASCAR is a joke.


NASCAR got this right though.

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Goodness gracious sakes alive. I am going to take credit for this.

Adding a 13th driver to the Chase...

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they should give the championship titles to the owners of the teams. that way it doesnt matter if one drivers lays down to help a teammate. if any driver on your team wins, your team wins.

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Good Lord they just pussified NASCAR with this one. So you can not take a driver out to help yourself or a teammate. Fucking Dale Sr is turning in his grave. Most of the old time drivers would never have won a race or championship with this kinda shit. Bullshit anyone in favor of this needs to turn in their man-card and put on some lace panties and high heels.

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Good Lord they just pussified NASCAR with this one. So you can not take a driver out to help yourself or a teammate. Fucking Dale Sr is turning in his grave. Most of the old time drivers would never have won a race or championship with this kinda shit. Bullshit anyone in favor of this needs to turn in their man-card and put on some lace panties and high heels.

Dale Sr. would have taken a giant shit on the chase format. That is the root of the evil. Hopefully its done with now because of this fiasco.

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