Jesus, Tony, does every NFL Coach of the past 25 years deserve to get in? How about Sam Wyche? Jerry Glanville? Marty Morninweg?

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Fire Phil Emery

Dungy is going to be a shoe-in.

don't forget Rich Kotite.

Irish Boy, that's a hoot.

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OK folks, I'm done padding my stats for the evening. I'll post my final thoughts once I've slept on it for a night.

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Fire Phil Emery

It seems like it.

I thought all three running backs looked good tonight.

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I missed the game but I don't like what I'm reading. I don't think it rained in the dome this evening so what was wrong with the stumbling fumbling quarterback tonight? Labor Day plans weighing heavy on his mind?

Rex got by last year but I think he might lose a lot of games for the beloved this year. I can see them going 10-6. What the dope am I going to do without NFL Sunday ticket?

He fumbled TWICE!!!!



That is all.

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Where have you been?

According to me, Rex is a pud and will have to spend this season proving otherwise. How much did he play?

If Rex can't learn how to do a center-QB exchange, he has to be benched. That is jr. high stuff. I think that mentally he checks out far too easily. He still has the same tendencies that lead to bad things last year.

Besides that the game was useless in giving us any clue as to the QB situation. I think that both Griese and Orton have at least shown that they are currently capable NFL QB's. They may not be MVP candidates but they have something there.

Rex is our quarterback.

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He played a quarter and a half. He was 9-11. I don't want to hear this Rex crap anymore. I do understand it but he's the best guy on the roster. Bottom line. Yes - fumbles bad. Yes - interceptions bad.

Look, we're going 11-5 this year. He'll QB all games that he's healthy. It's gonna come down to what he does in the post season. So don't scream every time he throws a damn pick. He's gonna do it. Alot of good QB's have thrown picks. He'll throw moe TD's however. Just like he did last year.

Once again. He's the best QB on the roster.

The problem is that he is also the worst.

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No. He's not. That makes no sense.

He'll have 28 TD's and 17 picks this year. I'll take that.

Ok, that's it:

To begin with, I've been extremely optimistic this preseason. Personally, I believe the offense is much improved, and the defense was sured up with the addition of Walker. I liked what I saw from both Rex and the rest of the team the first game. So, naturally, going into this game, I was hoping to see some signs of progression from Rex and the offense. Don't get me wrong; I was fully aware that this was a preseason game, and that there'd surely be wrinkles. I just hoped to see good fundamental play, leading me to continue to feel good about this team. So, the first series Rex rolls out of the pocket; gone was his traditional back-pedal routine, and instead he throws a bullet for a completion. "Yes," I'm thinking, "this is more the fuck like it!"

Then he has the ball knocked away. Ok, that was a good play by the rusher, he really did a good job knocking the ball loose. Then he throws an interception. Hey, I was ready for that. That's what the preseason is all about; take some chances, what the fuck. I swear to you though: I thought to myself after that interception "hey, so long as he doesn't fumble the fucking snap."

So what happened?

That's right. Motherfucker fumbles the snap.

Ok, ok. Bugaboo. Freak occurrence. Sweating a bit, but ok. Just that once.


Then..

Oops, commercial runneth over...


But then? We rewind and find that he fumbled the motherfucking snap a second motherfucking time in less than a full half of play. Jesus-titty-fucking-christ.

This guy can't play, ladies and gents. I don't give a shit how far he can throw the ball or how well he can thread the needle: motherfucker can't handle the snap. That's it. Bottom line. He can't even get the ball to start with.

I feel better.

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I don't think you got my point. He can be amazing, but he can be terrible. If you are able to make the statement that he's the best QB on the team, then I assume you ignore the multiple 4 turnover games from last year.

I'm being realistic here. Rex has the highest upside and can dominate a game. He also has the largest downside and can give games away.

He showed today that he still has the problem where he is not mentally all there. It was a short amount of time and he by no means should be benched. You saw Bad Rex show up tonight, but he was pulled before it got too bad.

It is his fifth year now. He has had a full season plus some other games to learn how to play. Time to stand up and be the player he can be or get someone in there who can control the ball.

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Matt. You have some perspective at least. Sure it was disapointing to see Rex fumble the snap.

But everybody acts like this has been a long time problem for Rex. It hasn't. He didn't fumble center exchanges until the rain in the Super Bowl. He shouldn't have and the rain isn't an excuse cuz he should have concentrated more.

But it's not going to be a problem in the season.

Rick, I don't think he has the most down side. If Orton or Griese played 16 games this year they would have more 3 interception games then 3 TD games. They would.

Rex is gonna have more 3 TD games then 3 pick games. I did understand what you were saying. I just think you're wrong.

I'm glad he's not my baby dr. He has a bit of the dropsies. Rick & MITC are right.

Unless I'm suffering from Alzheimer's, this is false. I seem to remember him having trouble with the exchange numerous times throughout the season, culminating in his Superbowl experience where he typified his ineptitude at receiving the snap.

Bet the farm: the QB controversy is in full swing now, and not just in the media and fandom.

PS: Hester is a truly special player.

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I hope you are right and I want Grossman to succeed, but the only thing I was concerned about with Grossman came up today. Turnovers happen, but when it rains it pours with Rex. The defense will be good enough to bail the Bears out against many teams but it eventually comes back to get you.

I'll reserve judgement on Rex until the first game or two, but I saw my worst nightmare today, Rex mentally falling apart.

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It's nice to see that the lunacy is back to mid-season form in the pre-season, even if the players themselves aren't.

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Alright. It's 3 against 1. I'm done with the Rex talk until opening day. It will never end.

I understand it. People who don't like him aren't stupid. I just think he'll be the Bears QB for 10 years and win alot of games. That's just me.

It's got to be a 50/50 split on this with Bears fans.

It's not 3 vs. 1. Remember, Nas and I are still Grossman fanboys.

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Fire Phil Emery

Just stop and ask yourself this: are you confident going into any big game with a Quarterback who has proved an inability to handle the snap in key situations?

That's the bottom line, and I refuse to believe that the coaching staff is so stupid as to fail to appreciate this fundamental point. Throwing out everything else, on that single point alone, there has to be a QB controversy. IMO, if they're smart, they'll get the other two QBs some reps with the first team.

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Let me ask you this Matt. Was the Seattle playoff game a big one? Was the NFC championship game vs Saints a big one?

So yes he can win big games.

I'll go ahead an put myself on the staunchly Pro Rex side of the ledger as well. I'm aware of his faults, and am willing to live with them. Brian Griese and Kyle Orton do nothing for me.

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He can, sure. But it's a crap shoot. The guy can't handle the snap in key situations.

I was thinking about this. Don't you think that after the first time he had a problem handling the snap, he thought "oh shit, I better never make that mistake again"? Yet he did. Ok, several times. So he had that frame of reference going into the Superbowl. He no doubt made a conscious effort to avoid mishandling the snap. It's not like it was something he had simply never thought about. Yet, that's just what he did.

I was willing to overlook that. Inexperienced guy. Learning experience. But, in my mind, Grossman ought to have spent an incredible amount of time in the offseason thinking about ways to never mishandle the snap again. In my mind, that was the one thing that I could see from Grossman that would lead me to believe it's an absolute necessity that this team consider other options in the near term. And sure enough, that's exactly what happened tonight. Once again, he manages to mishandle 2 snaps. That's just unacceptable. I don't hate the guy; I actually find him likable, and wish he would succeed. But, to me, the fact that he's shown an inability to get the snap-handling issue under control is a monstrous red flag. You can't have that; that's the bottom line.

Maybe Rex turns it around; maybe he doesn't mishandle another snap. I'd love that. But, to me, it's irresponsible to have blind faith in that. The record is clear: he mishandles snaps in key situations. I'd like to see a concerted effort to prepare a Plan "B."

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Everything you said is fair. I like him and think he'll have a fine career.

I guess the bottom line is can he win a Super Bowl? I say yes.