seeing just to many 1-2 year QBs starting and playing well across the NFL to be too concerned with Cutler's departure, especially with a good QB group coming in.

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He has been more frustrating than good since he's been here but was looking better this season...tough call.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I'd let him go.

It's also pretty interesting to watch many other QB's make really good throws at times. It kind of puts the whole "Cutler makes great plays" thing in perspective. A guy who was almost in the CFL instead of the NFL made some great throws last night too. You need a QB who is either cheap or puts up big numbers.

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The only thing is they'd have to hit on their draft pick, which Emery has failed to do more often than not in his two drafts. The entire 2012 draft, outside of Jeffery, is garbage. I know you're not implying this, but the success of the QBs you mention doesn't necessarily mean the Bears will enjoy success when they take their turn at selecting a QB.

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I hate this rationale. If our GM sucks then we'll suck with or without Cutler. No reason to not try and save money and/or improve the QB position because it may not work.

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Have a look through here. Even with good QB classes, it's not easy to find a QB that is good:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/d ... 80-now.htm

After McCown throws for 350 yards and 4TD's tonight,no need for a search. #BearsKoolAid

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Unless Cutler comes back and leads the Bears to the SB you have to let him go if the price isn't right. I've been screaming this all season. I would not give him $15M a year for any reason beyond that.

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Unless you think they should give Cutler a 5 year deal what does that matter?

The next quarterback may be terrible. The next quarterback may be a hall of famer. That is just how it works.

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The next quarterback could be Jay Cutler for less than or equal to market value, so you don't have to worry about having a quarterback who is terrible... which ultimately means you will definitely have a bad football team.

So you say 5 year deal?

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I don't know what the contract will be. And the years mean less than the guaranteed. And I would probably franchise him unless the long term deal is a bargain.

I believe everyone that says they would franchise Cutler is just saying that to fuck with me.

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Why would you franchise him? They'd be in the same position of not knowing if the new QB will suck. It will just be a year later.

Do you want Jay Cutler to be the Bears quarterback for the next 5 years and at what rate per year would you want him?

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It's the single most important position in sports. There aren't enough starting QBs in the entire world. If I have the chance to secure one for my team, I'm doing that. I'm not willing to completely roll the dice and have there be a high chance that the drafted QB is bad, thus spoiling the team for years.


If there was a high upside young backup on the roster, along with a high pick, then my opinion might be different. As it stands today, I'm not letting the best QB is franchise history walk and rolling the dice on a draft pick. With how bad the defense is, you HAVE to have a good QB or the next few seasons are completely worthless.

I would franchise him and draft a QB with the first pick. That would give me options. I'm not willing to go into the draft without a QB, if I am in the Bears situation as it stands today.

It's a pretty simple question. I don't know why you refuse to answer it.

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How much he should get for a 5 year deal? I don't answer that question because I don't know how much he should get. I'm not as concerned about the money. I think you have to pay him what the market dictates, and with the way the 1 year deals are all expiring, they will have the money to do it.

Cutler is not the best QB in franchise history. Sid Luckman is.

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I think Trestman would very much like for that to happen (aside from the obvious reason of perhaps getting a victory)...I don't get the sense he cares for Cutler.

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So, pay him whatever the market rate is? What if Philadelphia offers $20 million for 5 years? Do you match or beat that?

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I think once Jay passes him in yards, he'll pass him in just about every statistical category. But saying he is the 2nd best doesn't change my opinion.

I would franchise him if they offered that.

two of the last three years have been pretty solid

I thought the 2013 draft class was horrible. Still, those guys are not nearly as bad as I thought and they are progressing. Geno Smith is winning the Jets some games.

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Schaub is clearly on his way out of Houston. I bet you could sign him for less than half the price of Cutler and he has had better career production.

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What good does that do?

Your argument seems to be that the Bears need to keep Cutler for 3 years at least because the new quarterback may suck. Why would the Bears pay him all that franchise money and then sign him to a big deal a year later? That will cost them more money.

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The only reason I point it out is because saying the best QB in franchise history isn't really pertinent. For the thread purposes we should probably just call him the 16th best QB in the nfl today. That matters a lot more.

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It gives you time to draft a QB that fits Trestman's scheme. And if they don't draft one, you can franchise him again or try to sign him for another few years.


All that said, Jay was 3rd in QBR after the first 5 games. That's really good. Even if he regressed from that number, I don't see how you wouldn't want that for the next few years, especially with a dying defense.

And if you don't believe the #3 QBR was 'real,' then the franchise buys you time and allows you to draft a QB that could be a potential replacement.

Packer bias aside for a moment, you are saying the Bears should bring Cutler back right?

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