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What is the point of praying at an abortion clinic other than trying to intimidate or shame someone? Does God not hear your prayers from home?


To let others know that someone is thinking of them and that there are other choices.

Oh, and saving the life of an unborn child.

"Abortion, one dead, one wounded"

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Oh, and saving the life of an unborn child.


how many lives have you saved so far ?


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Oh, and saving the life of an unborn child.


how many lives have you saved so far ?


At an abortion clinic Bagels?

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What is the point of praying at an abortion clinic other than trying to intimidate or shame someone?


Btw Hatchet, are you insinuating that there is something shameful about an abortion?

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Oh, and saving the life of an unborn child.


how many lives have you saved so far ?


So we are in agreement at least that there are lives to saved at an abortion clinic Bagels?

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Oh, and saving the life of an unborn child.


how many lives have you saved so far ?


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Oh, and saving the life of an unborn child.


how many lives have you saved so far ?


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god do most people get knocked out that easily? if those 15yo's tried that on me they would be running, and at least one of them wouldnt get away.

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Btw Hatchet, are you insinuating that there is something shameful about an abortion?


Shameful that as a society there is a place for them. I haven't walked in that woman's shoes, so I'm not going to judge her decision. Maybe if I were perfect like Christ I could judge her actions.

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Shameful that as a society there is a place for them. I haven't walked in that woman's shoes, so I'm not going to judge her decision. Maybe if I were perfect like Christ I could judge her actions.

Bullshit. I bet you got a nice pair of pumps.

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This "game" isn't new. Delfino Mora was killed not far from my house last year.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magaz ... -Violence/


I wish the person doing the "STORY" didnt call it a game and called it what it is "AN ASSAULT" or "ATTEMPTED MURDER" as when you see some of these guys fall without bracing themselves can only imagine death is imminent.

Yes, even the kid who was interviewed, who seemed really knowledgeable and smiling about it.

The alleged integrity of anyone who claims they are "media" is disgusting. Have an opinion or do what is right and don't tell me you do it to inform the public. How about doing to it to report the kids that did it.

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Hatchetman wrote:
Maybe if I were perfect like Christ I could judge her actions.


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Wonder what would happen if all the self-righteous fuckheads who spend their days blasting politicians on chatboards and picketing abortion clinics and saving farm animals would use that time instead to help their fellow man in their own communities by volunteering at schools, homeless shelters, adult education centers, etc, etc.

Nah, that'll never happen! Nevermind.


The only person that has done any judging in this thread is you.

Is it too much to ask you to think before you post. Or maybe try and be informed on the topics you choose to speak of?

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This "game" isn't new.


Chaspoopcup has been doing it for years. Well, at least threatening to do it.

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How many abortions do you think this behavior prevents?
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I took some of the pictures of the legal murders of babies to one of my high school classes as a prop when I was debating my drunken teacher about abortion. I had never seen it done outside a murder clinic before then either. I have to believe they stop some people from killing their babies. Even if it is only 1 out of 100 that is a great thing.

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The funny thing is when you love your children and treat them with tenderness from the day they were born you don't need to beat them, nor will they want to hurt others.



Amen Hatchet.


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The funny thing is when you love your children and treat them with tenderness from the day they were born you don't need to beat them, nor will they want to hurt others.



Amen Hatchet.


Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod of correction will drive it far from him.

Spare the rod and spoil the child. #Truth


Suffer the little ones...
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The funny thing is when you love your children and treat them with tenderness from the day they were born you don't need to beat them, nor will they want to hurt others.



Amen Hatchet.


Amen in that you are hoping that it is the end because the statement isn't correct



What part of the statement are you contending is not correct?

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The funny thing is when you love your children and treat them with tenderness from the day they were born you don't need to beat them, nor will they want to hurt others.



Amen Hatchet.


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Suffer the little ones...
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Rebukes done well give wisdom.

The rod teaches that might makes right.

The rod is not, nor has it ever been, necessary to teach wisdom.

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Regarding the abortion protesters: meanwhile they turn millions away from Christianity with their deplorable tactics. There are better, more effective ways of preventing abortions than intimidating people and waving disgusting pictures in their faces (working to reduce poverty, improve education, access to health care, etc..). However, these things take time, effort, and sacrifice. Easier to hold signs and yell at people.

The ends do not justify the means. Jesus worked through love, not scare tactics.

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Regarding the abortion protesters: meanwhile they turn millions away from Christianity with their deplorable tactics. There are better, more effective ways of preventing abortions than intimidating people and waving disgusting pictures in their faces (working to reduce poverty, improve education, access to health care, etc..). However, these things take time, effort, and sacrifice. Easier to hold signs and yell at people.

The ends do not justify the means. Jesus worked through love, not scare tactics.


Bravo!

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Who says they aren't? Those people are putting themselves in harms way to protect life. Preventing 1 innocent baby from being murdered is a great achievement. If the signs did it then the ends do justify the means.

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Who says they aren't? Those people are putting themselves in harms way to protect life. Preventing 1 innocent baby from being murdered is a great achievement. If the signs did it then the ends do justify the means.


If that's what floats your boat, so be it. But given how most (not all) of the self aggrandizing and sanctimonious frauds cease to care once the fetus becomes an actual baby, the means are usually merely empty self serving stunts.

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If I put my mind/money/effort into it, I believe I could save a life in this world somehow someway. But I have chosen not to. I'm no better than a woman that had an abortion. I hope to become a better person moving forward.

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Who says they aren't? Those people are putting themselves in harms way to protect life. Preventing 1 innocent baby from being murdered is a great achievement. If the signs did it then the ends do justify the means.


Nas going Sean Hannity on us tonight. Saying things he doesn't even believe.

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Regarding the abortion protesters: meanwhile they turn millions away from Christianity with their deplorable tactics. There are better, more effective ways of preventing abortions than intimidating people and waving disgusting pictures in their faces (working to reduce poverty, improve education, access to health care, etc..). However, these things take time, effort, and sacrifice. Easier to hold signs and yell at people.

The ends do not justify the means. Jesus worked through love, not scare tactics.


You started this by judging people.

Now you have moved on to fallacies of composition.

There is an abortion clinic in Glen Ellyn near my home.

The same people that stand outside and pray there, hold no signs and do no yelling.

They are the same people that feed the poor, clothe the naked and provide shelter to the homeless.

And they are also the same people that are the first to help women after the clinic sends them home after taking payment.

Your ignorance is vincible. And certainly not something to be applauded.

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Regarding the abortion protesters: meanwhile they turn millions away from Christianity with their deplorable tactics. There are better, more effective ways of preventing abortions than intimidating people and waving disgusting pictures in their faces (working to reduce poverty, improve education, access to health care, etc..). However, these things take time, effort, and sacrifice. Easier to hold signs and yell at people.

The ends do not justify the means. Jesus worked through love, not scare tactics.


You started this by judging people.

Now you have moved on to fallacies of composition.

There is an abortion clinic in Glen Ellyn near my home.

The same people that stand outside and pray there, hold no signs and do no yelling.

They are the same people that feed the poor, clothe the naked and provide shelter to the homeless.

And they are also the same people that are the first to help women after the clinic sends them home after taking payment.

Your ignorance is vincible. And certainly not something to be applauded.


My GF worked at the clinic in Glen Ellyn. The protestors did the exact opposite of a peaceful protest during her time there (within the last two years). I can't speak to what they do when they leave the clinic, but those protestors were extremely nasty.

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Regarding the abortion protesters: meanwhile they turn millions away from Christianity with their deplorable tactics. There are better, more effective ways of preventing abortions than intimidating people and waving disgusting pictures in their faces (working to reduce poverty, improve education, access to health care, etc..). However, these things take time, effort, and sacrifice. Easier to hold signs and yell at people.

The ends do not justify the means. Jesus worked through love, not scare tactics.


You started this by judging people.

Now you have moved on to fallacies of composition.

There is an abortion clinic in Glen Ellyn near my home.

The same people that stand outside and pray there, hold no signs and do no yelling.

They are the same people that feed the poor, clothe the naked and provide shelter to the homeless.

And they are also the same people that are the first to help women after the clinic sends them home after taking payment.

Your ignorance is vincible. And certainly not something to be applauded.


My GF worked at the clinic in Glen Ellyn. The protestors did the exact opposite of a peaceful protest during her time there (within the last two years). I can't speak to what they do when they leave the clinic, but those protestors were extremely nasty.



You can drive by the days the clinic is open and see the same people praying there silently.

If that's nasty perhaps it's because your girlfriend works inside. A clinic btw that doesn't usually feel the need to even provide escorts to those coming inside.

Thanks for stopping by. And let me know how many of these women she helped after her bosses were done taking payment and sent them on their way.

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Who says they aren't? Those people are putting themselves in harms way to protect life. Preventing 1 innocent baby from being murdered is a great achievement. If the signs did it then the ends do justify the means.


If that's what floats your boat, so be it. But given how most (not all) of the self aggrandizing and sanctimonious frauds cease to care once the fetus becomes an actual baby, the means are usually merely empty self serving stunts.


I see the hypocrisy in it. That being said it is still a plus. If I murdered 20 people you probably wouldn't care as much if I saved your life. I imagine some of us here were almost aborted. If someone talked our mother out of it we are thankful.

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