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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:21 pm 
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What's going on? I received this email today from Xpressbet:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:47 pm 
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The legislature failed to extend the Internet wagering provision.

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That makes no sense. I thought the state was broke and everyone was desperate for new revenue streams? Why not maintain the ones you have?

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That makes no sense. I thought the state was broke and everyone was desperate for new revenue streams? Why not maintain the ones you have?

They want everyone to play the Illinois Lottery online and not bet horses. :)

It does suck... I know most people won't care until May, but there's good racing always going on somewhere. The derby prep races are just a few weeks away.

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Reason for optimism?

From http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2013 ... 838/print/

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Illinois House backs online horse betting plan
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SPRINGFIELD — A push to once again allow Illinoisans to bet on horses online continues to advance after the Illinois House on Sunday approved the proposal.

Arlington International Racecourse officials are among the horse racing industry advocates wanting to give gamblers back their online betting abilities after the rules allowing it expired at the beginning of the year.

After a 90-18 vote in the House, the legislation now moves to the state Senate.

The proposal also would send more than $23 million in casino revenues to the racing industry. More than $109 million has accumulated in a fund for the industry over the years, but it's not been paid out because of a dispute over the law.

The rest of the money will go toward school construction throughout the state. That the racing industry won't get the full amount it was promised irked state Rep. David Harris, an Arlington Heights Republican.

“When you make a deal with the state, they ought to uphold the deal,” Harris said.

Lawmakers on the other side, however, argued the industry would get nothing without the legislation. Arlington leaders have backed it.

The plan also would let two companies that took bets from Illinois gamblers even after the law expired — one owned by Arlington owner Churchill Downs — pay taxes on their revenues and otherwise avoid punishment.

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From http://eeditionmobile.chicagotribune.co ... id=Ar05201

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HORSE RACING
Spat threatens tracks’ future
Racing calendar in Illinois remains uncertain for 2014


By Neil Milbert Special to the Tribune

Perched precariously on the edge of a fiscal cliff, the Illinois Racing Board will hold its monthly meeting Tuesday with everyone in the room still in the dark about what the 2014 racing calendar will look like.

“Thousands of horsemen are unable to plan for their future,” Illinois Harness Horsemen’s Association President Dave McCaffrey said.

“There are people’s lives at stake here — working men and women supporting families.”

The Racing Board is dependent on Advance Deposit Wagering revenue for funding to perform its regulatory responsibilities, but this month’s veto session of the General Assembly ended without the lawmakers taking any action on this mechanism for betting on Illinois races on the Internet.

The current ADW law expires Jan. 31. In the interim, there are only two brief opportunities on the legislative docket for the statute to be renewed or rewritten — if the legislators reconvene in early December to try to resolve the pension crisis and on Jan. 29 when they will return for one day.

Lawmakers also have discussed returning in early January to vote on moving up the date that gay marriage is allowed in Illinois, but that is not scheduled as of now.

In awarding 2014 dates in September, the Racing Board did something unprecedented.

It drafted four schedules based on when ADW legislation is enacted and if an additional $725,000 in supplemental funding is appropriated for the fiscal year that will end June 30.

The board’s first option

— a replica of this year’s thoroughbred and harness dates — is dependent on ADW being renewed before Jan. 31 and the supplemental funding being awarded.

The worst case is that neither will happen by Jan. 31, forcing the board to go to the fourth option and cut the schedule.

There would be no harness racing at Maywood Park and its sister harness track, Balmoral Park, would be limited to 13 days, July 5-Sept. 27.

On the thoroughbred side, Arlington International Racecourse would have 49 programs, May 1-Aug. 20; Hawthorne would have 15, Aug. 21-Sept. 20; and Fairmount Park in Collinsville would have 10, April 29-May 31.

“The legislators are telling us that we in racing have to get our acts together and come up with a solution,” Maywood President Duke Johnston said. “They’re saying that if we (the racetracks, horsemen and ADW providers) reach an agreement on what should be in an extension bill, they’ll pass it.”

But at the veto session there was a conflict instead of a consensus.

The conflict pitted the Churchill Downs, Inc. subsidiaries, Arlington and its Internet provider, Twin-spires, against all of the Illinois entities: Maywood/ Balmoral, Hawthorne, Fairmount, the Illinois Thoroughbred Horsemen’s Association, the Illinois Harness Horsemen’s Association and the Illinois Horsemen’s Benevolent and Protective Association.

Hawthorne’s ADW provider, Xpressbet, and Fair-mount’s provider, TVG, are siding with Arlington/ Twinspires, while BetZotic, which is under the Maywood/Balmoral umbrella, is backing the bill supported by the Illinois coalition.

The main element in the Illinois bloc’s proposal is a 0.9 percent surcharge on every bet placed through an ADW provider.

Arlington/Twinspires wants to increase by .135 percent the pari-mutuel tax on wagers placed at the tracks and off-track betting locations and through ADW online betting.

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Such fucktards! How much more time can they waste on this issue! Every year?

Do they debate the need for stop signs too and renew that?

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The most ridiculous part is that the Racing Board was funded from monies produced by ADW. During the time when there was none due to the failure of the legislature to renew the bill, no money was coming in. So now the IRB is $725,000 short and lacks the funds to operate without the legislature allocating that cash and/or renewing the ADW bill.

The real problem is Arlington. The current ADW law favors Churchill and the Twin Spires wagering system. Everyone else naturally wants to make changes. But the legislature is full of guys who don't know a damn thing about the racing industry- and frankly, who don't give a fuck. All they see is an industry full of dummies who can't get on the same page about anything.

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The Illinois racing industry has been dying a slow, painful death. I think this might be it for them.


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Is this Xpressbet good? Lately, I have been going to the OTB bar here and there is very little and confusing info on the sheets/books they peddle. I would like to go in more educated especially for harness.

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There are restrictions in Pennsylvania. http://www.xpressbet.com/StateRestrictions

As for harness racing I have no clue other than JORRs advice to not bet the horse with the squeaky wheel.

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I was thinking more for the info/research etc not to place the bet. Thanks. Seems when I go there I can bet all over the country including Maywood.

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I was thinking more for the info/research etc not to place the bet. Thanks. Seems when I go there I can bet all over the country including Maywood.


Don't they offer the standard program via Trackmaster?

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No it is fucked. They have one small sheet/pamphlet that has maybe half the tracks with very little timing or jockey info. That is more for local or popular tracks. Then they have a $5 program again with half the tracks but its not great at all.

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Besides JORR I want to go in with a plan next time. It is fun but I saw too many losers making some money and I can do better. I have goals. 8) :lol:

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Agreement Reached Tuesday on ADW

Statement from Glen Berman, Executive Director

Illinois Thoroughbred Horsemen’s Association

“Illinois horsemen on Tuesday reached an agreement with Illinois race tracks and other racing stakeholders to extend the state’s advance deposit wagering law for three years beyond its scheduled expiration on Jan. 31, 2014. The agreement, which must be approved by Illinois lawmakers and signed into law to become effective, would provide for a full schedule of racing at the state’s five tracks in 2014, thereby avoiding the threatened doomsday scenario of draconian cuts to live racing opportunities.


“Should this plan become law and continue live racing unabated next year, it will prevent the catastrophic loss of thousands of jobs, at our tracks and throughout Illinois agribusiness, supported directly or indirectly by live racing. The plan will fully fund the Illinois Racing Board and will impose a temporary surcharge on winning wagers placed through ADW and at tracks, OTBs, and inter-track wagering facilities.

“We thank the IRB for its leadership in encouraging all parties to reach this agreement on Tuesday. We look forward to presenting this plan to Illinois lawmakers, should they return into session as expected in early December, and will press for its favorable consideration.”

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...will impose a temporary surcharge on winning wagers placed through ADW and at tracks, OTBs, and inter-track wagering facilities...


OK, this won't affect me too much :lol:

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...will impose a temporary surcharge on winning wagers placed through ADW and at tracks, OTBs, and inter-track wagering facilities...


OK, this won't affect me too much :lol:


They constantly nickel and dime the bettor. They've made it so anyone who is betting real money is going through a rebate shop somewhere. And they still want to take another percent or so. And they wonder why the pools keep shrinking.

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amazing!

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I signed up at xpressbet like a week or two before they started their "Bet 100, get 100 back" campaign. Twinspires has a similar one now so I am thinking of going over there.

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...and just how temporary will this temporary surcharge be? Kinda like the temporary tolls that started in 1953 just to pay off the money borrowed to build the highways.

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well maybe I finally get the night racing at Arlington I have been asking for.

JORR why no night racing? Yes, I know they will need lights

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well maybe I finally get the night racing at Arlington I have been asking for.

JORR why no night racing? Yes, I know they will need lights


The harness guys are going to scream bloody murder. Arlington has always had a lot of juice, but they may have strained their credibility with the Racing Board by being so difficult so often.

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Harness racing is really becoming an embarrassment in this state. I won't even get into the weekly purses for a standard mid-week card at Maywood or Balmoral. But those American National purses and the Windy City Pace purse were a fucking a joke. I can remember being a kid and the Windy City Pace was a $350,000 race. And even that didn't always bring in the top three year olds. I was honestly shocked Illinois managed to pull all those top horses here for such shitty money.

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Harness racing is really becoming an embarrassment in this state. I won't even get into the weekly purses for a standard mid-week card at Maywood or Balmoral. But those American National purses and the Windy City Pace purse were a fucking a joke. I can remember being a kid and the Windy City Pace was a $350,000 race. And even that didn't always bring in the top three year olds. I was honestly shocked Illinois managed to pull all those top horses here for such shitty money.


Oddly enough, the American-Nationals this year were loaded. This Windy City Pace was probably the worst one ever though. Some friends of mine own the Indiana-bred that had the rail in there. Before the race I thought he had a real shot, but Oosting gave him a curious steer. He needed to sit on the fence and hope for the best.

My favorite Windy City was in 2001. I owned a horse that was eligible but he was scheduled to sell at Harrisburg the next day. At the time this was the most expensive yearling I had ever purchased. His name was Outofthepast and I think we gave $62,000 for him at Lexington. Training him down, he was always with the top set. I had high hopes for this motherfucker. He looked like a million bucks and he had a fast turn of foot, but he had a heart the size of a pea. He was always a disappointment. We spent a shitload staking him in both his two and three year old seasons. At three he sort of put it together and won a few races at Balmoral. Danny Knox was his regular driver. This wasn't long before he killed himself in Melrose Park. R.I.P. Big Stick.

My partner and I went back and forth about entering him in the Windy City. Could we race and still get him to the sale? Well, we put him in. He drew the rail. He sat inside the entire way and finished fifth. My friend Roger's horse, Hawaiian Cowboy, finished ahead of him but he got disqualified and we got more of the money. As soon as he cooled out we put him on the trailer and Merv Chupp drove him to Harrisburg. Made it to the sale and went for 40 grand. I wasn't sad to see him gone.

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I thought he had a real shot, but Oosting gave him a curious steer. He needed to sit on the fence and hope for the best.

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Better than betting on one of the Tetricks and watching as he intentionally loses the race after winning the previous 3. Those bastards only lose the races when I bet on them driving.

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It seems like the favorites win more often than not with harness. I usually stay away from it.

Or I'll bet any horse that has "Fox Valley" in the name. :D

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It seems like the favorites win more often than not with harness. I usually stay away from it.

Or I'll bet any horse that has "Fox Valley" in the name. :D


I do the opposite. I never bet on a 'Fox Valley' horse just because I hate that every other horse is named that.

I also always bet on a gray horse, doesnt matter the stats. If a grey horse is in the field, I'm betting on it.

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At three he sort of put it together and won a few races at Balmoral. Danny Knox was his regular driver. This wasn't long before he killed himself in Melrose Park. R.I.P. Big Stick.


It's been a long time since I've seen the name Dan Knox. He did great work with AJ's Dad. Cashed many a ticket with him in the bike.


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Speaking of Oosting - heard he got pinched for battery this week. It will get swept under the rug again.


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