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 Post subject: Brady Hoke!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Brady Hoke!!!!!!!
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That's the kind of thing that gets Michigan coaches fired.

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That's the kind of thing that gets Michigan coaches fired.


Or another 10,000 seats

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bigfan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
That's the kind of thing that gets Michigan coaches fired.


Or another 10,000 seats


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 Post subject: Re: Brady Hoke!!!!!!!
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I agreed with him going for the win. His team was outmatched and it was a miracle they had a chance to win.

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 Post subject: Re: Brady Hoke!!!!!!!
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I agreed with him going for the win. His team was outmatched and it was a miracle they had a chance to win.


At home though? If you tie it and lose in OT, you just lost. You aren't going to take heat. The way he did it, a loss to OSU is on him and him alone. A coach at Michigan can't lose to OSU too often and keep his job. And the way this one went down isn't going to be forgotten by the nuts in Ann Arbor.

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 Post subject: Re: Brady Hoke!!!!!!!
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T-Bone wrote:
I agreed with him going for the win. His team was outmatched and it was a miracle they had a chance to win.

I agree T-Bone, I thought he took his best chance to win(don't agree with the particular play he called). Yes he is at home, but a huge underdog. With a hurt quarterback and a defense that was not going to stop Ohio State's ground game.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
I agreed with him going for the win. His team was outmatched and it was a miracle they had a chance to win.

I agree T-Bone, I thought he took his best chance to win(don't agree with the particular play he called). Yes he is at home, but a huge underdog. With a hurt quarterback and a defense that was not going to stop Ohio State's ground game.


This is what I thought too. I was expecting OSU to take them behind the woodshed and pull their pants down.
Michigan played their best football of the season and with an immobile QB and a defense that looked like the Bears
he took a chance at a huge upset. Bad pass at the end but I agree Hawg, a bad play call.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
I agreed with him going for the win. His team was outmatched and it was a miracle they had a chance to win.

I agree T-Bone, I thought he took his best chance to win(don't agree with the particular play he called). Yes he is at home, but a huge underdog. With a hurt quarterback and a defense that was not going to stop Ohio State's ground game.
I used to think the same way but I'm starting to question this logic now.

If you can play them even for 60 minutes why can't you compete with them for 25 yards more in overtime?

Also, bad play call. I don't understand why you wouldn't always call a play with multiple options if the first one isn't available.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
I agreed with him going for the win. His team was outmatched and it was a miracle they had a chance to win.

I agree T-Bone, I thought he took his best chance to win(don't agree with the particular play he called). Yes he is at home, but a huge underdog. With a hurt quarterback and a defense that was not going to stop Ohio State's ground game.
I used to think the same way but I'm starting to question this logic now.

If you can play them even for 60 minutes why can't you compete with them for 25 yards more in overtime?

Also, bad play call. I don't understand why you wouldn't always call a play with multiple options if the first one isn't available.

So, if the only way they were going to win the game was probably a 2 point conversion, does it matter if you try at the end of regulation or in overtime?

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Hawg Ass wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
I agreed with him going for the win. His team was outmatched and it was a miracle they had a chance to win.

I agree T-Bone, I thought he took his best chance to win(don't agree with the particular play he called). Yes he is at home, but a huge underdog. With a hurt quarterback and a defense that was not going to stop Ohio State's ground game.

I didn't think it was a smart call. The previous goal line situations made Michigan's play call predictable.

Michigan wasn't having trouble moving the ball. With the compressed field in overtime Michigan could've sold out to stop the run since they didn't have be worried about the deep ball. Braxton's accuracy troubles are exposed in the short field.


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Kirkwood wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
I agreed with him going for the win. His team was outmatched and it was a miracle they had a chance to win.

I agree T-Bone, I thought he took his best chance to win(don't agree with the particular play he called). Yes he is at home, but a huge underdog. With a hurt quarterback and a defense that was not going to stop Ohio State's ground game.

I didn't think it was a smart call. The previous goal line situations made Michigan's play call predictable.

Michigan wasn't having trouble moving the ball. With the compressed field in overtime Michigan could've sold out to stop the run since they didn't have be worried about the deep ball. Braxton's accuracy troubles are exposed in the short field.

So, going back to Brick's thought that for 60 minutes OSU had run the ball for over 500 yards, and now they are just going to stop them, I don't think so.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
So, if the only way they were going to win the game was probably a 2 point conversion, does it matter if you try at the end of regulation or in overtime?
That's a fair way to look at it too. I'm just starting to doubt the "underdog go for the win" strategy. It seems to mostly fail.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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So, if the only way they were going to win the game was probably a 2 point conversion, does it matter if you try at the end of regulation or in overtime?
That's a fair way to look at it too. I'm just starting to doubt the "underdog go for the win" strategy. It seems to mostly fail.

I also agree that it is not necessarily about the underdog for the win(and yes I did use that earlier), I think every game and situation should be manage to how the game is being played that day.

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