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 Post subject: Pirri demoted
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:38 pm 
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I hate you Q....terrible on young players. Read Ben Smith's comments recently. Bollig's too. These guys are all playing scared. The line shuffling creates anxiety.

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Man you've got to be fucking kidding me. What an awful move. Eat an entire equipment back of cocks , Q.

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I swear they win despite Coach Q. He makes the oddest moves.....

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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Why doesn't Stan share some blame?


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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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For me, it's because the line changes are all Q. Clearly he does not like younger players and quickly gives them the hook. I don't think there is a good relationship between Q and Bowman. CH will have to weigh in.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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For me, it's because the line changes are all Q. Clearly he does not like younger players and quickly gives them the hook. I don't think there is a good relationship between Q and Bowman. CH will have to weigh in.

Bowman's the one who re-signed Handzus, Carcillo, Scott etc. He's the GM. I'm sure Q has some input but Stan picks the players.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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Not really a big deal, Pirri has regressed in his short time here. Whether that's on Q making him play scared or not, I don't know. Perhaps some people just can't handle that pressure? Look at Ben Smith, he seems to be responding well, he's playing great.

Also, Handzus looked good in his last game and I kind of see why Q is more comfortable with him. He's way better in the defensive zone and just smarter with the puck all around. Pirri looks lost half the time.

You need to play defensive hockey in today's game to win the Cup, Pirri has shown he's not very capable of doing this so far. Morin might end up being the better prospect after all. Perhaps Pirri is just an AHL hero.

I'd rather have Pirri stay and continue taking him lumps at the 2C and see if this guy can get comfortable and show consistent progression in the D zone and with the puck but it's obvious Q doesn't have the patience for it.

I disagree with the move but it's not a big deal to me today like it would of been a couple weeks ago.


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So does this mean Bickell is close to returning?



Just echoing what everyone else has said already, this is a pretty weak move by Q (yes I blame Q as well since he's the one not playing Pirri, not Stan). I guess if you're not going to play Pirri on line 2 there isn't really a place for him with Bickell returning. Not sure why Q has such a love affair with Handzus. Is it all because of faceoffs?

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There's definitely tension between Quenneville and the Bowmans, but I feel that you'd be hard-pressed to find coach/GM pairings that don't have tension inherent to the power struggle of short-term versus long-term, or using the players versus supplying the players. Barry Trotz and David Poile, maybe, but what the fuck have they ever achieved?

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Is it all because of faceoffs?


It has to be. I dont see anything else that could justify it.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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I read the DH beat report each day. It is easy to read between the lines in the quotes. Q is always backhanding young players, and it usually revolves D play. But they have to learn somehow. The players often comment about getting comfortable with line mates as the reason for recent success. But then Q blows up the lines.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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Team took off when Zeus got hurt and Pirri centered the second line . That's not good enough for coach fuckstache though. Gotta find shit to nitpick .

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In a salary cap world, teams will need to balance veterans against developing young players. If Pirri costs the Hawks a game now for the purpose of experience, I think we can afford it. The Hawks will need to have their young guys grow into veteran roles. The shuffling between the Hawks and Ice Hogs is silly. Their just swapping one group of young guys for another, Nordstrom's back up I believe. Hope he doesn't have a bad shift....

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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Morin is back up, too.

The other conspiracy theory bouncing around is that Stan is suppressing their stats for when it's time to re-up in the summer. We don't want to look at extending a Brandon Pirri with 50 points from playing with Kaner.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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You'd think we just sent down Pavel Bure in his prime.

I banged the drum louder than anyone for Pirri to get a shot. He got a few weeks here, which is a long time for a young player with Q at the helm.

He sucked hot ass the last 2 weeks here and was a liability during the win streak, not a reason for it.

If you don't understand why he was sent down, then it's because you're letting what you want cloud your judgement.

We want him to stay up and develop because we don't have many fucks to give about the regular season. Q doesn't feel the same way. Just a difference of opinion that doesn't really effect the team either way.

He'll be back anyways once Handzus hurts himself again.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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Well, with Pirri sent down, and Zus and Shaw being out, who's playing center besides Toews and Kruger?


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Smith and Nordstrom, I presume. Maybe Versteeg. Woof.

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Smith and Nordstrom, I presume. Maybe Versteeg. Woof.


Right.


It feels overly critical to continually harp on Q, but once a week he does something that makes no sense. Zeus even being on this team right now is pointless, much less 2C. Q's consistent though in all his years here, he trusts his veterans. Sometimes to a fault. This is one of those times for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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Yeah, I've gotten kind of turned off by The Committed Indian lately because it just seems like every single write-up is about what an idiot Q is and how terrible the shootout is. Considering that Q has coached the team to three third rounds and two championships and the team has done so largely by winning a shit-ton of shootouts, it begins to take on the makings of an alternate reality.

That said, this was an odd move, but then again, Nordstrom is as much a center as Pirri, and Q clearly liked him enough to have him make the team out of camp over Pirri, so we'll see.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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Not really a big deal, Pirri has regressed in his short time here. Whether that's on Q making him play scared or not, I don't know. Perhaps some people just can't handle that pressure? Look at Ben Smith, he seems to be responding well, he's playing great.

Also, Handzus looked good in his last game and I kind of see why Q is more comfortable with him. He's way better in the defensive zone and just smarter with the puck all around. Pirri looks lost half the time.

You need to play defensive hockey in today's game to win the Cup, Pirri has shown he's not very capable of doing this so far. Morin might end up being the better prospect after all. Perhaps Pirri is just an AHL hero.

I'd rather have Pirri stay and continue taking him lumps at the 2C and see if this guy can get comfortable and show consistent progression in the D zone and with the puck but it's obvious Q doesn't have the patience for it.

I disagree with the move but it's not a big deal to me today like it would of been a couple weeks ago.


I don't think his defense is that bad and his offensive production outweights his defensive shortcomings. He might be a good fit on the 2nd line.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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You can say all you want that Pirri was good enough defensively and with the puck but watch how the other Centers on this team do it and you'll realize it's not good enough to stay on Q's Chicago Blackhawks.

I assumed Handzus was good to go again though. Pretty much no logic in sending him down when Handzus and Shaw are hurt. If they're healthy, I totally get it.


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I don't really expect anybody to know...where is he? I'm at the wolves/ice hogs game but don't see him out there. Can't google or mr Spaulding will give me the evil eye for being on the phone.


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Look for #27.

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He played on the 30th but not the last 2 games. Must have an injury that is enough to keep him out but not enough for anyone to mention it.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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He's back up!!! Hoping its second line with hossa and Kane!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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He's back up!!! Hoping its second line with hossa and Kane!!!!

Yeah, and Bicks on 3 with Zues getting a blow. Thank christ. Guy is slow as fuck.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirri demoted
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Who is he on with?

Edit: nm found it. Versteeg pirri and Kane. I don't like it. No d.


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