Is this a bit or do people really feel this was a bad Cutler game?

9/14 on 3rd downs. 21 fourth qtr points.

The bad stuff was early. He hasn't played in a month.

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Does early not count?

Dont you think he always has the bad patch?


No, it wasnt a bad game for Cutler, but there were some bad plays that served as reminders of his poor decision making.

The Forcing it to Marshall thing is real and a real problem.


And 21 4th quarter points

1 was a ridiculous catch by Jeffry
1 was a 40 yard run

Not exactly the Jay Cutler show

No. It was close to a bad game but he bailed himself out with some really great plays in the fourth quarter.

He's lucky that Jason Campbell is horrible though. His play is what really turned the tide.

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You're right, it wasn't a bad game, and they did win. I just think the whole thing is/was unnecessary. You don't reinsert a gimpy QB back into the lineup when you're still fighting for a playoff spot, and especially when your backup QB became Neo overnight. Basically, Cutler wasn't missed.

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I don't know, I've just kind of lost faith.

He gave up 10 points and was fortunate the Jeffery pass wasn't picked off but this was nowhere near a bad Cutler game. He single handedly lost 4 or 5 games his first season here locking in on Olsen. He was rusty (that was expected) but the game was closer than it should have been. He got it done in the end.

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Jay Cutler is one of the few QB's whose stats tell you nothing. It works both ways. I've seen the guy have bad statistical games where he actually played well and good statistical games where he played poorly. This game was mediocre in my mind. It could have easily been horrible, but he bailed himself out with some decent plays late. He also missed on about 5 overthrows in the first half that should have put the game out of reach early.

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Again, if we are going to start disallowing Jeffery catches then there is no debate.

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Jeffery did nothing special there. The safety/cornerback misplayed a fly ball. We were fortunate. If you get a chance look at the tv shot. It had interception written all over it. Having some luck is not a bad thing. I expect him to be better next week.

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A great catch does not negate a bad decision. Jay does stupid things that sometimes result in 6 pts, not always for the good guys.

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Agreed. McCown made the exact same bad decisions when he was running around and throwing it up there. I swore the one throw he was throwing it away and Jeffery still caught it.

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It's not really worth arguing about, but Cutler's throw was a prayer. I've seen punts with less hang time. The two miracle TDs from McCown to Jeffery were more spectacular catches than throws, but the throws were placed where only Jeffery could catch them. Cutler's pass was just begging to be picked.

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The one I'm thinking of was caught at maybe the 2 for about 30 yards a couple weeks ago I believe. It was a prayer.

But I thought the Board parameters this week were that we weren't allowed to attribute hypothetical interceptions. I'm quite certain I read it a billion times.

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Cutler did not look good. Was his right ankle the hurt one? looked like he couldn't push off it. The Jefferies TD was just a Hail Mary. Lucky but not a bad play by Cutler. No Biggie if they pick it off.

I think he's still hurt.

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He ought to get credit for the deep throws that resulted in back-to-back penalties for 40 yards.

But I won't argue that like I just did above. Up there.

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First pass by the Bears (a little dump to Forte) had to infuriate the Browns' coaching staff. Skrine made absolutely no attempt to tackle Forte and instead lowered his shoulder in a pathetic attempt to collide with him. Forte made him miss and peeled off a decent gain, making Skrine really look like a pussy. If I'm the head coach, Skrine is cut tomorrow.

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The offense didn't look the same. That was expected because of rust. Beyond the rust Cutler didn't look like he learned any lessons from sitting out. Fortunately the defense looked competent today.

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102+ rating, more TD's than turnovers, and a comeback win on the road.

I'm more than good with what happened today, especially after multiple injuries and a month off.

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Jay Cutler had a 99.9 Total QBR in 4th quarter. His Total QBR in the 4th quarter this season is 95.2, tops in NFL

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I don't think it was "bad." For Jay, it was decent. Not his best, not his worst. Really, I think this was a typical Cutler game. And it was decent.

It just wasn't as good as McCown.

The narrative is that McCown is a replacement-level QB. Ok. If that's true, Jay is slightly below replacement-level.

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Bingo. Last week, that Jeffrey catch was magnificent. But if Jeffrey doesn't catch it, there's no chance anyone does. This week, the catch was totally up for grabs. Obviously, Jeffrey has a knack for catching hard-to-catch passes, but that doesn't mean all such passes are equally-well advised.

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It's your choice. Either way, it's bad for Jay because Jay throws more hypothetical interceptions and he throws more real interceptions.

Anyways, the key is to get Jay Cutler to play as good as Josh McCown, and then we'll win the Super Bowl!

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Doc: I'm sympathetic to what I think is your support of Trestman's decision to start Cutler, but I think the central question for those who supported Jay starting is this: How has McCown hurt the Bears by starting, such that through his demotion, the Bears will be better positioned to win the division?

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21 4th quarter points does not happen by accident.

If you take away the 200 yards the Rams and Vikings rushed for against the Bears, the defensive numbers look a lot better. That's not the way it works though.

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Right, I just explained what happened. Not really much Cutler there.


If they had three defensive TD's would you credit the QB with that?


This reminds me of when Zaidman kept saying "The Bears were averaging 31 pts a game when Cutler got hurt" (failed to mention that the defense/st were scoring more than the offense)

So it doesn't count when Cutler throws up a ball that a WR makes a great play on, but its OK to count that FOR McCown when it happened to him? We might as well throw out YAC for Cutler too.

I didn't think it was the right move to start Cutler this week, but he helped his team get a win on the road when they were trailing in the 4th quarter. #Truth

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I know you hate Cutler, but I'm sure Bryan can answer for himself. Thanks.

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I really don't understand the complete reliance on stats and points when debating this issue. Is it possible to just watch the game and form an opinion? To say that 21 points in the fourth quarter HAS to prove the QB had a good game is simply untrue. There are a ton of scenarios that could have played out without any help from the QB.

Edit: I don't hate Cutler. I hope he carries the Bears to a Super Bowl. I just don't see it happening.

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I actually totally agree with your point. But it's just annoying that people choose to count stuff for Josh and not Cutty.