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 Post subject: Re: Jim Schwartz
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Just coming here to say the same thing.
Gotta be done.

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Schwartz
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Have him join Matt Millen. They could get a local Detroit Radio Talk Show.

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Good riddance.

Semi-serious thought: Why not Lovie? Get a capable OC with a system that maximizes the talents of Bush, CJ, et al., and then have Lovie bring discipline everywhere else.

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Good riddance.

Semi-serious thought: Why not Lovie? Get a capable OC with a system that maximizes the talents of Bush, CJ, et al., and then have Lovie bring discipline everywhere else.

:lol: Dude cmon man.

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veganfan21 wrote:
Good riddance.

Semi-serious thought: Why not Lovie? Get a capable OC with a system that maximizes the talents of Bush, CJ, et al., and then have Lovie bring discipline everywhere else.

Ive been beating that drum for a while. A coach to mesh that defense and play a more ball control offense and they'd be dangerous


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rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Good riddance.

Semi-serious thought: Why not Lovie? Get a capable OC with a system that maximizes the talents of Bush, CJ, et al., and then have Lovie bring discipline everywhere else.

Ive been beating that drum for a while. A coach to mesh that defense and play a more ball control offense and they'd be dangerous

He would let those goons do whatever they want to do.
That team needs, dare I say NEEDS discipline.
That ain't Lovie.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Good riddance.

Semi-serious thought: Why not Lovie? Get a capable OC with a system that maximizes the talents of Bush, CJ, et al., and then have Lovie bring discipline everywhere else.

Ive been beating that drum for a while. A coach to mesh that defense and play a more ball control offense and they'd be dangerous


I'd be fine with the offense they have now. In fact, I don't want Lovie, if he hasn't changed, going near the offense at all - and I say that as a Lovie fan.

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Schwartz
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Darkside wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Good riddance.

Semi-serious thought: Why not Lovie? Get a capable OC with a system that maximizes the talents of Bush, CJ, et al., and then have Lovie bring discipline everywhere else.

Ive been beating that drum for a while. A coach to mesh that defense and play a more ball control offense and they'd be dangerous

He would let those goons do whatever they want to do.
That team needs, dare I say NEEDS discipline.
That ain't Lovie.

They might not need discipline if you remove Schwartz's personality from the equation.

Lovie would have that defense playing very well and the offense is good enough


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Darkside wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Good riddance.

Semi-serious thought: Why not Lovie? Get a capable OC with a system that maximizes the talents of Bush, CJ, et al., and then have Lovie bring discipline everywhere else.

Ive been beating that drum for a while. A coach to mesh that defense and play a more ball control offense and they'd be dangerous

He would let those goons do whatever they want to do.
That team needs, dare I say NEEDS discipline.
That ain't Lovie.

Isn't it though? The Bears were pretty disciplined.


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 Post subject: Re: Jim Schwartz
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Either way, nagannahappon because he's in in Houston.

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Darkside wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Good riddance.

Semi-serious thought: Why not Lovie? Get a capable OC with a system that maximizes the talents of Bush, CJ, et al., and then have Lovie bring discipline everywhere else.

Ive been beating that drum for a while. A coach to mesh that defense and play a more ball control offense and they'd be dangerous

He would let those goons do whatever they want to do.
That team needs, dare I say NEEDS discipline.
That ain't Lovie.


I don't think we see Lovie the same way. To me, Lovie's teams were very disciplined, especially compared to the zoo at Detroit. The guys didn't want to disappoint Lovie, and that bred its own kind of discipline in which everyone was wedded to the defensive system.

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Schwartz
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I don't think we see Lovie the same way. To me, Lovie's teams were very disciplined, especially compared to the zoo at Detroit. The guys didn't want to disappoint Lovie, and that bred its own kind of discipline in which everyone was wedded to the defensive system.

I disagree... a "players coach" means that he lets the players do whatever they want. I never saw Lovie as any kind of disciplinarian.

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Schwartz
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Darkside wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:

I don't think we see Lovie the same way. To me, Lovie's teams were very disciplined, especially compared to the zoo at Detroit. The guys didn't want to disappoint Lovie, and that bred its own kind of discipline in which everyone was wedded to the defensive system.

I disagree... a "players coach" means that he lets the players do whatever they want. I never saw Lovie as any kind of disciplinarian.


Make sense...okay let me ask you this: if we agree he's not a disciplinarian in the Coughlin and/or Cowher sense, would you also agree that his teams were disciplined anyway? I think both are true.

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veganfan21 wrote:

I don't think we see Lovie the same way. To me, Lovie's teams were very disciplined, especially compared to the zoo at Detroit. The guys didn't want to disappoint Lovie, and that bred its own kind of discipline in which everyone was wedded to the defensive system.

I disagree... a "players coach" means that he lets the players do whatever they want. I never saw Lovie as any kind of disciplinarian.


Make sense...okay let me ask you this: if we agree he's not a disciplinarian in the Coughlin and/or Cowher sense, would you also agree that his teams were disciplined anyway? I think both are true.

I did not think his teams were disciplined. Too many offsides, false starts.... not exactly disciplined IMHO

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No way in the world do I want Lovie any where near Detroit.

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If my father in law had his way, Schwartz would be on his way out, now.

It was a bit of a joy to watch the Lions choke while surrounded by Lions fans today.

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Darkside wrote:
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I don't think we see Lovie the same way. To me, Lovie's teams were very disciplined, especially compared to the zoo at Detroit. The guys didn't want to disappoint Lovie, and that bred its own kind of discipline in which everyone was wedded to the defensive system.

I disagree... a "players coach" means that he lets the players do whatever they want. I never saw Lovie as any kind of disciplinarian.


I don't think that's what "player's coach" means. What it means is a coach that doesn't show up at the press conference and say, "Well, it's hard to win when your quarterback is a piece of shit. We try to tell Jay what to do, but he's completely uncoachable. It's a fucking shame he is wasting all those tools." Even though it's true.

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I don't think we see Lovie the same way. To me, Lovie's teams were very disciplined, especially compared to the zoo at Detroit. The guys didn't want to disappoint Lovie, and that bred its own kind of discipline in which everyone was wedded to the defensive system.

I disagree... a "players coach" means that he lets the players do whatever they want. I never saw Lovie as any kind of disciplinarian.


I don't think that's what "player's coach" means. What it means is a coach that doesn't show up at the press conference and say, "Well, it's hard to win when your quarterback is a piece of shit. We try to tell Jay what to do, but he's completely uncoachable. It's a fucking shame he is wasting all those tools." Even though it's true.

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D line with tons of pressure is all about Lovie, then he can pretend to be a genius with his amazing secondary work.

Everytime I hear Lovies defensive philosophy its Pressure the QB, LB's that can cover and a good safety!!!! That just leaves the 2 CB's that he doesnt need to be great. So give him 8 or 9 great players and he will give you a great defense!!!!!

And he can bring Marinelli with him....ohhh....wait....

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The Lions will be a much more dangerous team in the division the day Schwartz is fired.

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The Lions will be a much more dangerous team in the division the day Schwartz is fired.


Hopefully they squandered the prime of Calvin Johnson and he starts to decline.

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good dolphin wrote:
The Lions will be a much more dangerous team in the division the day Schwartz is fired.

Same thing was sad when the last coach was fired.

They will screw up the next coaching hire as well.

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