He will shrug his shoulders at the press conference,smirk at reporters and say he knows he can "make that throw" on the 2-3 balls that were intercepted and cost the Bears the game.

On Monday,Bernstein will insist the Bears need Cutler back and Terry will stammer some bullshit in the background.


....and life goes on!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I knew this thread wouldn't draw flies but feel free to come back to it on Monday when Bernstein argues the point that the loss to GB & Cutler's poor play means nothing. The Bears must sign him.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

If the Bears lose and Cutler plays mediocre or worse, the Bears would be fucking insane to re-sign or even franchise him. But I wouldn't put it past them.

If the Bears win and Cutler plays well, they will at least franchise him. If they win a playoff game, regardless of his play, the Bears will cave and sign him long-term.

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I think with Gould getting a new contract today, we'll know Cutler's status before next weekend.

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I hope it's ultimately Trestman's decision whether to bring Cutler back. He shouldn't bow to pressure form above. He needs to realize this will be his only chance at an NFL head coaching gig. If he's comfortable with Jay, fine. If not, he needs to put his foot down and demand the option to choose his own guy. I am going to trust Trestman, when it comes to the offense, until he gives me a reason not to. He's had some bad moments this year but I still think he'll be a good coach. This offense could be scary if they get a Knox type field stretcher, another TE that can catch and an upgrade at center.

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Good post. I agree.

The rough times he's had is due to being a rookie head coach. He's clearly shown he knows what he's doing with offense, and I'm even willing to give him and Tucker a bit of a pass on defense because of all of the injuries and lack of personnel.

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Trestman did good with an offense that has 2 stud WRs, a good TE, a good versatile RB and a much improved offensive line???

Tell me more about this offensive genius...

The Special Teams and Defense are terrible, he needs his share of the blame on that. People were quick to bash Lovie for having shit offense. Why does Trestman get a pass?

Mel Tucker has just overseen two of the worst defenses of all time in back to back seasons. Why does he get a third chance again?

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Can't argue with any of that. I still think if Cutler started every game Alshon would still be a "complimentary" guy instead of a 1-1a type that McCown turned him into.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

He gets credit for maximizing the talents of all those guys. Jeffrey definitely has progressed, while I'm pretty sure bennett and forte have new career highs in this offense for yards, receptions, or whatever. Having Alshon do that end around that sets up other stuff is an example of Trestmans positive influence on individual and collective progress for the offense.

On the other hand I think you can make a case for blaming and or firing Tucker for the defense this year, even with the injuries.

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Whether it is fair or not, and whether he likes it or not this game will define Cutler as a Bear.

If he succeeds I imagine the Bears will sign him to a deal that is beneficial to both sides.

If he fails, which I believe he will, the Bears will let him walk or sign him to a short-term incentive laden contract. If he throws picks and looks like he has versus the Pack in his Bears career, he will be the most hated man in Chicago come Sunday evening. At that point, he may consider going elsewhere.

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RFDC thinks I'm retarded.

NO FUCKING WAY!

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

You make a good point about Trestman BUT he was able to coach up a high school coach to play at a pro bowl level. His offense and his play calling has something to do with that.

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This pretty much sums up where I am at with this as well.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I doubt the bears are basing their decision on the upcoming game.

It has to play a role. It's a big game. I don't think it should make or break anything but it should be part of the overall evaluation.

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Also hoping it Is Trestman's call. As a fan I want jay back. But honestly, f Trestman doesn't want him back (and Emery does), that would be really unfortunate.

It's not going to sway the decision either way IMO. So pretty irrelevant. My guess is they have already determined what they want to do and it probably involves a contract number they are comfortable with. I guess they could use a poor game as leverage, though.

Yup, this off-season the Bears will likely lose an extremely productive and system-friendly QB. Oh, and i think Cutler is a FA as well...

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Unless Trestman has been bullshitting this entire time I am sure he really loves the tools Cutler has and wants to work with him. I'm fine with Trestman making the decision on which QB to draft BUT I don't want him deciding how much the Bears should invest in Cutler. I'm perfectly fine with Emery making that decision. He's been a pretty tough negotiator. He got Forte for a bargain and he's cut the cord on others at the right time.

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I agree with that. My opinion has been that trestman loves Cutler, but if the price is way too high, I'm on board with Emery letting him walk. That's really scary for me without knowing the alternative, but I don't think they should pay him top dollar.

He doesn't seem like a particularly religious man to me, so this shouldn't be an issue.

This was the year for Cutler to show us why he deserves a big boy contract. So far he has a C, with a lot of sick days. Not good enough for that kind of a contract. However, this is his chance at extra credit, to bring his grade up to an A. A win tomorrow and a decent playoff run, would be enough to earn him that big boy contract.

Yeah,I agree with that. I also think if he blows tomorrow,launch him!

Juiced,
Regarding your avatar,I just picture you posting with tears in your eyes every time.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I disagree. I don't care if he throws for 5 TDs and 500 yards. Any performance tomorrow, no matter how grand, doesn't just blot out four years of data. There should be nothing he can do tomorrow to change our appraisals of him in terms of signing him to a new contract. Let's not Matt Flynn ourselves into signing him to a large deal just because of a game or two of spectacular performances.

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The last two years,he has been better. Overall,if you want to grade him,you have to take in to account his terrible talent that surrounded him until 2012.

I think a fair grade is: B- or C+ with the arrow pointing up.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Totally agree on being fair and contextual about this. That's a fair point. But I do not think tomorrow's performance, whether good or bad, should move that arrow - wherever you or I may think it's pointing - in one or the other direction in any significant way.

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Hi,
As to my original post in this thread,I can just picture him with his "don't care" 'tude talking to reporters after the game. He needs to be very careful how he responds to a loss on Sunday. The other GM's around the league will be watching his postgame for a "heart" check on this guy. IF he acts like he usually does,he may cost himself a few million dollars. Nobody wants to invest in a guy that really could give a rat's ass if he wins or loses.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Hey,I read this and liked it! Bears have a lot of dead wood to move regardless of tomorrow.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

While the offensive line is better, it's still below average. That said, you are right about the 2 WR's, TE and RB. He had lots of good weapons. The defense was okay early in the season when everyone was healthy and getting turnovers. But when the injuries took away a few starters (Briggs and Tillman particularly) and the turnovers stopped coming regularly, the defensive shortcomings became glaring. If Tucker couldn't operate Lovie's defense effectively, he should have said so, rather than taking the DC job under the condition that he operate in that defense. He should be replaced at season's end, which will probably be tomorrow.

Cutler has 17 TD's and 11 Int's. That is a shit ratio. He will have failed to secure the division with 2 chances to do it. He will have established a 1-8 record VS their top rival and most importantly, chief competitor in their division. He has to go. With 9 Td's and 16 Int's VS Green Bay and a 61.5 overall QB rating which resulted in the 1-7 record he has established VS Green Bay. If his history VS the Packers repeats itself (history so often does) I am going to be VERY interested to see if the Bears finally come to their senses and realize he's NOT a franchise QB and need to go in another direction.

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Go Cubs!!!!

Will take more then a good performance tomorrow.