This is an absolute disaster. He's being paid along the same lines as future hall of fame quarterbacks. Save your "market rate" and "Peter Tom Willis wasn't good so we need to pay the 12th best quarterback in the league like he's Peyton Manning". Cutler needs to have career years in every year of this for it to even be a good contract. He probably needs to be Aaron Rodgers at least for a season or two for it to be a great contract. All the while, they have to opt out of two straight quarterback classes which seem pretty good and instead play the lottery that a 4th round quarterback ends up being even halfway decent.

We now have the highest paid and worst franchise quarterback in the league.

Per PFT, he would have made $60 million on 3 years of the franchise tag.


I don't understand the "limit your options." They want him as the QB. That's not limiting your options. And it's a 3 year deal, so they can still draft someone. And if they draft the guy they like, they can trade Cutler.

Saying the deal is market rate isn't necessarily a pro Cutler position. It simply is the rate by which you secure many second class QBs like Cutler, Flacco, E Manning, and so on. I was personally open to letting him walk, signing a vet for a year, and drafting a QB. I can only assume the Bears' structured the deal in a way that allows them to address the holes on defense. The Bears dont strike me as a Jerry Jones or Dan Synder operation.

I would feel so much better if I thought you all were just fucking with me. Yes the Bears would have had to pay Cutler $60M over 3 years IF they need to use the tag for 3 straight years. What's likely is if Cutler was performing at a high level and staying healthy the Bears could have worked out an extension after Year 1 or Year 2. The cost of using the tag for those 2 years would have ONLY been $34M ($4M less than they will pay now). That is beyond insane.

Saying the deal is market rate isn't necessarily a pro Cutler position. It simply is the rate by which you secure many second class QBs like Cutler, Flacco, E Manning, and so on. I was personally open to letting him walk, signing a vet for a year, and drafting a QB. I can only assume the Bears' structured the deal in a way that allows them to address the holes on defense. The Bears dont strike me as a Jerry Jones or Dan Synder operation.

Every cent of which would have been guaranteed.

THat list doesnt represent the best players, only who signed last. Sam Bradford is making more than Peyton Manning.

I don't understand the "limit your options." They want him as the QB. That's not limiting your options. And it's a 3 year deal, so they can still draft someone. And if they draft the guy they like, they can trade Cutler.

Every cent of which would have been guaranteed.

Have you read the last 5 pages of this thread my friend? It isn't a market deal. He's getting $22.5M next season and will make $39M in 2 seasons. Way more than he could have gotten with the franchise tag.

Well, I would argue with that. They don't "want" him as a quarterback. They want him more than anyone they could reasonably get.

But Cutler likely wouldn't have played under the tag, anyway. Quarterbacks don't do that.

You're going crazy, JORR.

He could have held out but that obviously would be dumb. Also, the franchise tag is only allowed two years in a row not three.

Quarterbacks are protected, too. In the third year of the franchise tag, they get at least a 44-percent raise over their cap number in the prior year.

No, you are. Are you really suggesting that if it was an open draft of all quarterbacks, Jay Cutler would be among the top five or six the Bears want? Why would that possibly be? I'm sure no one who gets paid to evaluate football players believes Cutler is as good as you do. That's why this was a stupid move. The Bears had all the leverage. I'm not saying you could go into next season with a McCown. But you didn't need to break the bank for Cutler. You're asking him to do something he has never done. Because if he doesn't, this is one of the worst contracts in sports.

Again, it can be spun in any positive way you want. He received a contract in the same ballpark as future hall of fame quarterbacks when he's the third best quarterback in his own division.

The fear of not having a legitimate starting QB year after year in the NFL is not a legitimate one?

Look at the AFC South, minus Indy right now.

He could have held out but that obviously would be dumb. Also, the franchise tag is only allowed two years in a row not three.

They are going to let Peppers and probably Tillman go. That would give them $11 mil more next year than this year to rebuild the defense with no glaring offensive weaknesses to address.

I literally didn't say any of that. I said they wanted Jay Cutler. That's why they signed him to a contract. If they had the chance to sign Rodgers instead, they probably would, though.

Its not a positive spin, its just recognizing the market place.


If this is a disaster, then so is Tony Romo, Mario Williams, Etc.


If you're saying those are all disasters, then I agree.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Its not a positive spin, its just recognizing the market place.


If this is a disaster, then so is Tony Romo, Mario Williams, Etc.


If you're saying those are all disasters, then I agree.

And that's what I said. Wanting him more than Josh McCown or Matt Schaub is different than wanting him. You seemed to be suggesting that Cutler was the guy they were targeting as the man to carry this franchise. If they did think that, it's time for a new front office.

The point is you didn't need to pay him like he's Peyton Manning. It won't turn out well for anyone but Jay.

No. Tony Romo is much better than Jay Cutler. It's still probably a bad contract though. This is just worse.

Mario Williams contract is a disaster too.

I'm was wrong. I wish the Bears did use the Franchise Tag on Cutler.

Dude, you're off your rocker. My point was that they wanted Cutler to be the QB for the next 3 years, so they signed him for 3 years. This wasn't intended to be a controversial statement. Typically teams want players they sign.