I'm just going by watching them. I feel he's every bit as good.

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Would any of those big 4 have put their team in a 38-10 hole though?

Sure. You don't remember Brady's 4 int game against the Broncos? Everyone has bad games. It's not how you start it's how you finish. And that was a pretty damn good defense that Luck finished against yesterday.

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I guess so.

Ive watched a handful of his games and he still feels like a guy who is figuring it out. Im sure he's on his way though

Not yet. He's in the driveway but he needs to do a little bit more to get inside the house.

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- Henry George

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Isn't Flacco in that group as well? He has won a Super Bowl and he has a number of playoff appearances and wins.

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Lol no.

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+1

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The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

Let's not all shit our britches over what Luck did. KC has been limping along to end the season and the only reason he needed that comebacck was because he played like dog shit in the first half.

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If you're just counting postseason production then you probably would have to include him. Something happens to him in the playoffs that doesn't happen to him at any other time. Similar to Eli he gets better when the games matter more.

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The comeback was only possible because the Chiefs lost two running backs, a top DE and a top CB during the game.

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too bad for the Chiefs no one concussed this guy during the game:

yes, that is another point. Eagles fans smiled with acknowledgement at that game. Usually he pulls that in the conference championship

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Flacco's team made the playoffs five years in a row and the year before last they were one dropped pass in the end zone against New England from the Super Bowl.

No one should ever forget Eli leading two gamewinning drives against Tom Brady and The Patriots in 2 different Super Bowls.

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I still got russ wilson ahead of luck.

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Mini Ditka I acknowledged his playoff production. It was one of the reasons I picked them to win the SB last year.

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Would you rather have Jay Cutler or Joe Flacco?

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For a game or for a healthy season?

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