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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Bottom 9, down 1, 2 out, nobody on, dominant closer pitching

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:03 pm

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Frank Thomas, Albert Pujols or Manny Ramirez?

Who do you call on?

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:04 pm

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Manny.

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Manny without question.

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Pujols.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Bottom 9, down 1, 2 out, nobody on, dominant closer pitc

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:10 pm

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Cant lose with any of them.

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:11 pm

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Manny.

They'll walk him to get to 1993-94 Big Frank who wins the game with a HR

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:12 pm

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Pujols.

can always say it is a biased view as the guy dominated at Wrigley, so maybe we only saw his best, but going to base it what I saw and this may have been the best hitter to venture into Wrigley for years.

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Post subject: Re: Bottom 9, down 1, 2 out, nobody on, dominant closer pitc

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:15 pm

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not sure how you answer that from a SABR question. Looking at OPS+ during respective 8-year peaks:

Thomas: 182
Pujols: 177
Ramirez: 166

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Bottom 9, down 1, 2 out, nobody on, dominant closer pitc

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:17 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

not sure how you answer that from a SABR question. Looking at OPS+ during respective 8-year peaks:

Thomas: 182
Pujols: 177
Ramirez: 166

Im not sure how to research it, but would be interesting to see their numbers against top pitchers

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:19 pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:33 pm

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Obviously horribly biased but the second most vivid Pujols memory I have is Smoltz coming into a 2003 Sunday night game in the 8th inning of a tied game to face him and Albert took Smoltz deep (first pitch I think)...Smoltz was insanely good closing at the time...

Of course, I'd have no problem taking either of the other guys. :lol:

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Hawkeye Vince

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:11 pm

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Give me David Ortiz

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:27 pm

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I'm gonna go with Frank over Manny and Pujols. But Pujols would be fine too. I'd toss Manny since he struck out a lot more than the other two.

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Too soon

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:48 pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:50 pm

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I've always said that in his heyday Frank was the best right handed hitter I'd ever seen so unless it's Jeff Nelson pitching I'll take Frank in any situation

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Rod

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:53 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

I've always said that in his heyday Frank was the best right handed hitter I'd ever seen so unless it's Jeff Nelson pitching I'll take Frank in any situation

Were you listening to the press conference? Frank specifically mentioned Nelson.

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:57 pm

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Ryno

He won the MVP award for killing just this type of situation twice in the same game.

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Keyser Soze

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:16 pm

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He was a juicer. He went from a throw in to a Hall of Famer. Yeah that happens everyday.

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Bottom 9, down 1, 2 out, nobody on, dominant closer pitc

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:19 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

I've always said that in his heyday Frank was the best right handed hitter I'd ever seen so unless it's Jeff Nelson pitching I'll take Frank in any situation

Were you listening to the press conference? Frank specifically mentioned Nelson.

no fucking way, he did ? I just remember Frank would start bailing as soon as Nelson started warming up. Hell, he'll be bailing 20 years from now . He no likey facing him that's for sure.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:19 pm

Keyser Soze wrote:

He was a juicer. He went from a throw in to a Hall of Famer. Yeah that happens everyday.

He played tight-end in high school so he's beyond suspicion.

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Keyser Soze

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:28 pm

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High School? Big deal. Now if he would have played TE in college......

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Bottom 9, down 1, 2 out, nobody on, dominant closer pitc

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:49 pm

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dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Ryno

He won the MVP award for killing just this type of situation twice in the same game.

Alex Gonzalez was good too.

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:05 pm

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My first reaction is Pujols or Manny no matter how much I love Frank. Mostly because they seem to be more pull guys. On the other hand I want to say Frank as I trust him to be more patient with his eye and get the bat on the ball. He gets the bat on the right ball it goes deep. Frank.

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Hawkeye Vince

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:20 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Ryno

He won the MVP award for killing just this type of situation twice in the same game.

Alex Gonzalez was good too.

If this thread was titled, player you want the double play grounder hit to in order to end a threat in 8th inning of the NLCS - you might change your answer.

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badrogue17

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:22 pm

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pittmike wrote:

Thats sort of where Im at on this. Granted I didn't see anywhere near the amount of at bats from Pujols and Manny but no one ever spoiled, fought off, and then put in play for hits as many pitchers pitches as Frank.

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rogers park bryan

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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:09 am

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Hawkeye Vince wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Ryno

He won the MVP award for killing just this type of situation twice in the same game.

Alex Gonzalez was good too.

If this thread was titled, player you want the double play grounder hit to in order to end a threat in 8th inning of the NLCS - you might change your answer.

Before 2003, he would have been in the conversation

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