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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:52 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: NFL Coaching Changes
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All you really need to do is to teach the defense that they are good and dont need to inflict extra pain.

Then get Stafford to throw the same way each time.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Coaching Changes
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All you really need to do is to teach the defense that they are good and dont need to inflict extra pain.

Then get Stafford to throw the same way each time.


Do you see who they hired? Lovie or Whisenhunt were CLEARLY their best choices. When you haven't won anything and you have that much talent then you should invest in a coach that may be able to get you over the hump

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All you really need to do is to teach the defense that they are good and dont need to inflict extra pain.

Then get Stafford to throw the same way each time.


Do you see who they hired? Lovie or Whisenhunt were CLEARLY their best choices. When you haven't won anything and you have that much talent then you should invest in a coach that may be able to get you over the hump
Sounds like they hope he can work his magic on Stafford. That's the only logical explanation.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Coaching Changes
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All you really need to do is to teach the defense that they are good and dont need to inflict extra pain.

Then get Stafford to throw the same way each time.


Do you see who they hired? Lovie or Whisenhunt were CLEARLY their best choices. When you haven't won anything and you have that much talent then you should invest in a coach that may be able to get you over the hump
Sounds like they hope he can work his magic on Stafford. That's the only logical explanation.


Do they realize he didn't work his magic on Peyton and Flacco already had a history of playing at a high level in the playoffs.

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Do they realize he didn't work his magic on Peyton and Flacco already had a history of playing at a high level in the playoffs.
They are in for a surprise.

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He cant be worse than Shwartz...I bet he learned a few things from Indy n baltimore n has the lions @ 10 wins in year 1.

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I think Hub said the key was to come in and just let the QB do his thing.

I think that was a preview for Hub's book - "Horrible Football Thoughts".

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He cant be worse than Shwartz...I bet he learned a few things from Indy n baltimore n has the lions @ 10 wins in year 1.


I think he is.

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Jim Caldwell is awful. Thank you Lions.

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I think he will be like Wayne Fontes, just slightly good enough not to get fired quickly

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He cant be worse than Shwartz...I bet he learned a few things from Indy n baltimore n has the lions @ 10 wins in year 1.
I think he is.
I don't know if he's worse, but he's certainly no better than Schwartz.

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Vikings go with Zimmer.

These coaching hires really help out the Bears.

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You Bears fans are funny.

It's a source of celebration that the most talented team in the division got rid of a horrible coach, to pick up one that took actually took a team to the Super Bowl, and now has the most recent SB ring as an OC. Or that the Vikings picked up an actual professional football coach to lead a team with talent in most places other than QB.

And yet this celebration isn't tempered by the Bears' GM who can't pick defensive talent, nor the coach who is something of a hot house flower (and likely as durable). Nor that the Packers will still be better than the Bear next year if Rodgers is remotely healthy.

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You Bears fans are funny.

It's a source of celebration that the most talented team in the division got rid of a horrible coach, to pick up one that took actually took a team to the Super Bowl, and now has the most recent SB ring as an OC. Or that the Vikings picked up an actual professional football coach to lead a team with talent in most places other than QB.

And yet this celebration isn't tempered by the Bears' GM who can't pick defensive talent, nor the coach who is something of a hot house flower (and likely as durable). Nor that the Packers will still be better than the Bear next year if Rodgers is remotely healthy.

Funny.

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You Bears fans are funny.

It's a source of celebration that the most talented team in the division got rid of a horrible coach, to pick up one that took actually took a team to the Super Bowl, and now has the most recent SB ring as an OC. Or that the Vikings picked up an actual professional football coach to lead a team with talent in most places other than QB.

And yet this celebration isn't tempered by the Bears' GM who can't pick defensive talent, nor the coach who is something of a hot house flower (and likely as durable). Nor that the Packers will still be better than the Bear next year if Rodgers is remotely healthy.

Funny.

You are the funny one Reader. You will take any stance you can to throw stones at Bear fans. It's cool, we know it is what you do.

Caldwell is a horrible hire. Anyone that actually paid attention during his time with the Colts knows this. The Colts could not wait to get rid of such a good coach.

Zimmer is a "professional" coach. Wow quite a resume. He is basically another Leslie Frazier. He should stick to running defenses.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Coaching Changes
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Caldwell had about as much influence on the Colts success as Barry Switzer did on the Cowboys

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Singletary or Marinelli would be worse than SChwartz , this is a good hire for detroit. HEs a disciplinarian ...n say what ya will about super bowl with baltimore...he took over the o.c. job n made a bad offense much better in a short period of time. ANyone would look bad if an organization leaned so hard on one guy like manning n he gets injured n gone for season..CUrtis .Painter is craig krenzel bad. Detroit will go 10-6 IN year one.

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People in Detroit are not happy with the Caldwell hire & rightly so. Caldwell is a terrible hire. He might have been the worst head football coach in the NFL with the Colts. He's just another peter principle guy. The Lions should have looked at either a younger OC, or to the college ranks for their next head coach.
The Bears & Packers will be competing for the NFC North at least until Caldwell & Zimmer are fired.

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Caldwell had about as much influence on the Colts success as Barry Switzer did on the Cowboys


I'd submit that he had more to do with it than did Jon Gruden with the Bucs, or Brian Billick did with the Ravens. They both were coordinators on the side of the ball that had nothing to do with their titles.

And neither those Bucs or Ravens were ever accused of actually having good offenses.

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With the latest Mock draft, if the Vikings get Bridgewater from Louisville, Zimmer could have something with the Vikings.


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Caldwell had about as much influence on the Colts success as Barry Switzer did on the Cowboys


I'd submit that he had more to do with it than did Jon Gruden with the Bucs, or Brian Billick did with the Ravens. They both were coordinators on the side of the ball that had nothing to do with their titles.

And neither those Bucs or Ravens were ever accused of actually having good offenses.


Since Caldwell has had so much success leading offenses to the SB you should take him and give us Payton. I'm sure he would work wonders with Brees. He was a token hire. Nothing more than that.

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he reminds me of ray rhodes. i don't think it's a good hire either, compared to what they wanted.


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he reminds me of ray rhodes. i don't think it's a good hire either, compared to what they wanted.

I will never forget Ray Rhodes. He replaced Holmgren in Green Bay and went 8-8 and was let go.......and then Jessie Jackson lost his shit and went up there to protest.

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neither do eagles fans. he came in after the rich kotite disaster, and managed to win coach of the year taking them to the divisional round of the playoffs in his first year. it was pretty much all downhill after that, especially since his choices of QB were ty detmer and rodney peete, with bobby hoying waiting in the wings. those were some lean years for the eagles.


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Since Caldwell has had so much success leading offenses to the SB you should take him and give us Payton. I'm sure he would work wonders with Brees. He was a token hire. Nothing more than that.


Send the Saints Trestman as OC, Alshon & the Bears No. 1 pick and I wouldn't be averse to that. I don't believe Payton will be around beyond next year anyway. Dallas' $$$ will come a'calling & his family still lives there.

Then the Saints could take Aaron Murray with their 3rd rd. pick (Brees' arm has irreversibly started to fall off imo), have a helluva draft this year and still contend for a title next year.

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I'd submit that he had more to do with it than did Jon Gruden with the Bucs, or Brian Billick did with the Ravens. They both were coordinators on the side of the ball that had nothing to do with their titles.

And neither those Bucs or Ravens were ever accused of actually having good offenses.
:lol: :lol: Seriously?

Caldwell had one of the best quarterbacks to EVER play in the NFL in his prime. Give that to Gruden or Billick and their offense's suddenly become better too. Caldwell took a Tony Dungy team to the Super Bowl. He is not walking into such a sweet setup this time around in Detroit.

RR are you trying to tell us that if Mike Smith got fired today and the Falcons replaced him with say, Jerry Glanville, you wouldn't be happy about that or think that sort of hire doesn't improve your teams chances to win its division? WYC....

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It's too bad it seems like the Browns backed into a decent hire with Pettine. They're fortunate they didn't get their top choice McDaniels or some retread like Kubiak, which is exactly what that front office deserved. Then again, I'd rather see them luck into someone who might actually be good at his job than the Lions.


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It's too bad it seems like the Browns backed into a decent hire with Pettine. They're fortunate they didn't get their top choice McDaniels or some retread like Kubiak, which is exactly what that front office deserved. Then again, I'd rather see them luck into someone who might actually be good at his job than the Lions.

The outcry over Browns not having a coaching staff and letting go Ray Horton and Norv Turner was overblown. How Ray Horton became hot shit is confusing. Once he left the Cardinals defense became even better. That fucker blew a ton of 4th quarter leads with the Browns. Good fucking riddance.

Norv/Chud somehow saw fit to start the season with Weeden. What the fuck. Fireable offense right there.


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