Cutty come back.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Eli can have his 2 rings, I'll still take his brother as my qb any day of the week over him.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Right, Cooper chose not to play


Anyone but Peyton!

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Favre had a lot of control at the line of scrimmage toward the middle and the later years here in Green Bay he could do what he wanted with Sherman coaching him.

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Didn't everybody pretty much do what they wanted when Sherman was the coach there?

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No not really, but Favre really did. That is when he changed because Sherman let him get away with everything. He became very entitled. Also, when his dad passed away, his dad would have kicked his ass with some of the b.s. he pulled towards the end of his career.

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I'm thinking most QBs who are good enough to stay employed as undisputed starting QBs in their mid to late 30s are going to start doing their own thing, irrespective of what an OC/HC wants. By that time they've generated 10-15 years of experience, and have seen pretty much everything an OC or HC sees anyway, though that doesn't mean they'd be as wise as an older HC/OC.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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I am trying to recall, but I thought Jim Kelly called his own plays. But I can't think of anyone who made all the pre-snap adjustments like Manning does. He doesn't just make a hot read to wide out. He is calling out blocking assignments/blitz pick-ups and changing the play several times.

That 5:30 CSN sports show was debating best ever at QB. It seems like the folks who do not pick Manning as the best ever do so because they hate all the media and fan love for Manning. The excuses they were coming up with were lame. I guess you could debate 1-5 best ever, but it just seems like when everything is said and done, he is on top of them all. More impressively, he doesn't seem to have the arm strength and certainly not the athletic ability of many of the other folks. The only natural asset he has is height. Prior to Manning, I always thought Marino was the best passer I ever saw because I don't measure best player by number of titles.

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Didn't he have elite strength when he was younger? I want to say between 1998 and...maybe 2011 or so, right before he sat out a year.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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this is true. drew brees goes into "breesus mode" a lot more now, and he never seems to get reprimanded for it.

What kind of reprimands should there be?

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He did.

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GO BEARS!!!

Manning had all the physical tools at one time except mobility. His arm strength was once good to very good before his injury.

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A case can still be made for Brady being better

Right, but we're talking about football, not photo shoots.

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I personally don't think there can be much in the way of reprimands. At that point, for decorated and established QBs like Brees, any play caller is likely to be your peer as opposed to a mentor. The QB is as likely to know what to do as the play caller is...somewhat.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

whatever reprimands are appropriate for a quarterback who's costing your team the game.

Honestly, you just cant ignore the mediocrity in the post season. If you argue he hasnt been mediocre, ok.

But this thought of "I dont judge players by championships" is ridiculous. What are they playing for? I mean, No Eli Manning is not better than Dan Marino, but you cant just ignore POOR post season play and people shrinking from the moment.

Clutch exists baby!