Without looking at the stats, I felt last year when the Bears played the Seahawks Russel Wilson kind of came out of nowhere to own that game. So, I went back and looked at his numbers from the game and it was probably his best stat game of the year. 23-37, for 293 yards, 2 TD 0 int. His highest yards of the year. Then, another 71 yards rushing, his second highest of the year.

If you remember the 2 drives by Seattle. one to tie it up and the next to win in OT. Wilson was running around and there was not a Bear player with a breath left in the 4th quarter.

The 71 yards is the classic Lovie 2 deep safety play. Take all the yards you want, but we will stop you from getting into the endzone! Works great if your offense is scoring with Warner, Faulk, Holt, Az and Bruce!!!! Also helps to have HOF LB 6'4" #54 that can drop back and close off middle deep patterns that need to be dropped in perfectly.

I cant wait to see Lovies teams in TB. They wont get blown out! Games will be close! they will lose most of the time unless they get a few stud O players, then they will win against all the bad teams, go 9-7 and lose to the playoff teams.

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So you'd rather them score than rack up massive yardage?

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I'd expect a little regression from the Bucs D next year as Lovie's defense always seemed dependent on players with particular skills. On the good side, my guy Lavonte David is probably going to explode under Lovie.

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I was at that game, it was amazing. Been a huge fan of his ever since.

He's definitely become overrated since then but that was one hell of a performance to see live.

I agree he is a bit overrated. Its kind of funny, its like they need the play to break down before he can make a great play, or before everyone gets tired

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That's the game that inspired the Shep grammy award winning song "The D is old"....(Russell Wilson looked like an all pro..)

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See, nobody really acknowledged him. He was the guy who edged out Matt flynn. That 4th quarter and OT was the start of the Bear D Breakdown. Tresty got the chevy with 162,000 miles on it and was expected to use it for another season.

Its why I cant tag Mel Tucker with the full blame, but still think a change should have been made, as long as changing wasnt setting anything back....we couldnt go back any further

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from what i remember from that game was the bears had NO answer for the read option late in the game. They ran it continuously and wilson routinely got to the edge and oldman #54 was unable to chase him around.

It seemed to work pretty well when the offense was putting up 13 points with Orton, Thomas Jones, Mushin Muhammed, and Rashied Davis.

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Great point by Frank C!

That record day by Steve Smith of 218 yard receiving, 2 TD's, 12 catches, 36 rushing yards, was a fine example of great the 2 Deep system works against good players, in a fine example of Lovies playoff teams

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

So, coaches are to be criticized based on picking one game out of nine total years of work. Were you in hibernation during 2006? Did that year ever occur on your calendar? They beat the vaunted Saints offense to get there. What about leading the league the past nine years, cumulatively, in turnovers? Forget the Carolina game. There was one game in 2010 where the Patriots had like 38 points at halftime, so yeah, ergo Lovie blows.

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I have never once said Lovie Blows. He is a solid coach, but his record v the upper (above .500) teams is terrible for a reason.

You point out the turnovers. Sure, they have some games where they got 3 and 4 against bad teams. You sit 2 deep safeties, I feel very good you will get interceptions, at the same time, they will travel down field.

There is also a reason the Lovie defense was always in the bottom 3rd for 3rd down defense, because teams threw under the coverage as needed.

This is why Lovies defense was good v Favre. Over throws were coming and he had guys back there. Then he was terrible v Rodgers

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Look, I think we'd agree that the most important stat for coaches is wins, and while Lovie got some Ws along the way, he didn't get enough near the end of his tenure.

After that, in terms of defense, it's all about limiting the points you give up. Forget conversions, forget yards, etc. It's about points. And for most of the time, Lovie's D stopped other teams from putting up points - and that's all that matters. 17 in his last year here, 15 in his second or third year, and on average probably top 5 or 7 over the past nine years in the aggregate. Cover 2 against elite QBs like Rodgers worked because it limited them to FGs on the Bears' best days. They get down the field going underneath, then the field shrinks in the red zone, and as a result the offense stalls and/or kicks a FG. Mission accomplished against folks like Rodgers.

The TOs are not always a product of deep safeties. You're deliberately ignoring the coaching Lovie did to install a culture of stripping the ball away from players through gang tackling, as well as always playing to the whistle in order to ensure TOs aren't left on the field.

To be fair, he was rightly fired for not figuring out the offense. Defense was not an issue when he, as is necessary, had good players. It wasn't just about having Urlacher, it was about knowing how to use him to optimize his strengths

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This season, how much better would this Bears defense have been with Lovie?

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I am thinking not much due to injuries.

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I strongly believe they would finish no worse that somewhere in the 20-24 range. I don't have it in front of me, but I think the worst he's ever done on D is 25. Don't quote me on that though.

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The record is the record but Lovie's teams weren't giving up 30 and 40 points to the better teams in the league. They were usually losing 17-13 or 13-10. That's why we were pointing fingers at the offense. If the defense didn't score or set the offense up in great scoring position they struggled to score. You can go back and look at some of those box scores BF.

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