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He could win if they traded him to the Heat or Thunder
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What if you just added Carmello and D. Rose to this current Bulls team?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Bagels wrote:
He could win if they traded him to the Heat or Thunder
Maybe

What if you just added Carmello and D. Rose to this current Bulls team?

If Thibs could teach Melo to play defense, they would be an instant contender....





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He could win if they traded him to the Heat or Thunder
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What if you just added Carmello and D. Rose to this current Bulls team?
Could you cut Carmelo for salary cap relief?

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Debating the issues is fine. When a person goes against the grain i.e. popular consensus they become the target not what it is they are arguing. Its cheap and its lame. For instance when discussing the "n" word i mentioned that I am an African American. That was questioned by two different people. I believe it was questioned because I didn't tow the company line and because I didn't make apologies for the use the word by African American people. I use the word and in my neighborhood (predominantly African American) that word has always been used. That was my essential point. The point didn't get addressed because there was far too much concern as too my race. Before that I was supposed to be Jason Goff. That was used to dismiss perfectly valid arguments. Its cool and to be honest I am not that sensitive. I can take it but don't think you won't be called on it when I see it happening. Not really sensitive as I am attentive and when the other poster posted a similar point I agreed with him that's all.

I disagree with everything but you being Goff


Everyone gets accused of being radio hosts or mults here. Its just a thing. But I read the N word thread and im fairly certain most of the responses were at what you posted and not attacks on you

My bad on the Goff thing I misunderstood that part of the culture. If its a universal thing cool. As far as the "N" that word is thrown around in black communities. Its not just a socioeconomic thing either. Black intelligentsia also has used that word. John Fountain who writes for the Sun Times has admitted that he uses that word. There have been others as well. It does not make it write but in ghetto areas that word has been used for years. We have tended to ignore that because our antennaes are always up when it is time to yell racism. I can speak to that because i am an African American I attended a historically black high school (Phillips) and college (Grambling State Univ). I can recall a white person referring to me as a "N" once and that was while I was in college. The town of Ruston where La. Tech resides is right outside of Grambling. We were at a stop light weren't paying attention to the people in the car next to us. As they pulled off they yelled "f'ing" "N"s. African Americans use that word quite liberally yet our so called leaders refuse to call people on it. I have become desensitized to the use of the word. I understand the historical significance of the word. It does bother me that racism still exists. It is important to point out the double standard that we as African Americans have when it comes to our own people. And that was the point that I was attempting to illustrate.

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Didnt Carmelo win a national title?

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Carmello could win as the second option
...off the bench.

The guy is still a top five player. If you put him with the current Pacers team and subtract the increasingly overrated Paul George they win it all.

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Debating the issues is fine. When a person goes against the grain i.e. popular consensus they become the target not what it is they are arguing. Its cheap and its lame. For instance when discussing the "n" word i mentioned that I am an African American. That was questioned by two different people. I believe it was questioned because I didn't tow the company line and because I didn't make apologies for the use the word by African American people. I use the word and in my neighborhood (predominantly African American) that word has always been used. That was my essential point. The point didn't get addressed because there was far too much concern as too my race. Before that I was supposed to be Jason Goff. That was used to dismiss perfectly valid arguments. Its cool and to be honest I am not that sensitive. I can take it but don't think you won't be called on it when I see it happening. Not really sensitive as I am attentive and when the other poster posted a similar point I agreed with him that's all.

I disagree with everything but you being Goff


Everyone gets accused of being radio hosts or mults here. Its just a thing. But I read the N word thread and im fairly certain most of the responses were at what you posted and not attacks on you

My bad on the Goff thing I misunderstood that part of the culture. If its a universal thing cool. As far as the "N" that word is thrown around in black communities. Its not just a socioeconomic thing either. Black intelligentsia also has used that word. John Fountain who writes for the Sun Times has admitted that he uses that word. There have been others as well. It does not make it write but in ghetto areas that word has been used for years. We have tended to ignore that because our antennaes are always up when it is time to yell racism. I can speak to that because i am an African American I attended a historically black high school (Phillips) and college (Grambling State Univ). I can recall a white person referring to me as a "N" once and that was while I was in college. The town of Ruston where La. Tech resides is right outside of Grambling. We were at a stop light weren't paying attention to the people in the car next to us. As they pulled off they yelled "f'ing" "N"s. African Americans use that word quite liberally yet our so called leaders refuse to call people on it. I have become desensitized to the use of the word. I understand the historical significance of the word. It does bother me that racism still exists. It is important to point out the double standard that we as African Americans have when it comes to our own people. And that was the point that I was attempting to illustrate.

Yeah, I was accused of being Jesse Rogers

I understand your thoughts on the word, and respect them. But I dont think you got attacked in that thread. That's all Im saying.


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long time guy wrote:
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Carmello could win as the second option
...off the bench.

The guy is still a top five player. If you put him with the current Pacers team and subtract the increasingly overrated Paul George they win it all.

Oh lord....

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Didnt Carmelo win a national title?

Yep as a freshmen. Led his team i guess that equals loser in some people's world

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Yeah, I was accused of being Jesse Rogers


What on earth did you do that caused someone to think you were Jesse Rogers? That's pretty mean.


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Didnt Carmelo win a national title?

Yep as a freshmen. Led his team i guess that equals loser in some people's world


you're trying to equate collegiate success with NBA success ?


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Didnt Carmelo win a national title?

Yep as a freshmen. Led his team i guess that equals loser in some people's world
you're trying to equate collegiate success with NBA success ?

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Leno
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Yeah, I was accused of being Jesse Rogers


What on earth did you do that caused someone to think you were Jesse Rogers? That's pretty mean.

I dont know. Some random Cub thing Jesse agreed with me on or something


I dont even really know the guy. Never heard him. He's the opposite of Mac. Ratings go away from him


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So Atlanta gets a major ice storm, people can't leave and are stuck inside, and long time guy starts posting a lot more? Hmmmmmmm.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Carmello could win as the second option
...off the bench.

The guy is still a top five player. If you put him with the current Pacers team and subtract the increasingly overrated Paul George they win it all.

Oh lord....


He hasn't won a championship. A lot of players haven't including Kevin Durant. According to the imminently quotable Bernstein as long as you have Lebron James you win a championship. That stupid theory is going to get tested this year. Dwayne Wade is not a top five player this year. Probably is not a top 30 player. I want to see how far the Heat can go with just Lebron James. Carmelo Anthony has never played with a top five player during his career. He has not played with a top 10 player during his career. I know some will throw Iverson out there he was on the decline when he got to Denver. Its an easy narrative to say a person isn't a winner when they haven't won but which players on this team can you win with? Which NBA player is going to win a championship when your second best player is J.R. Smith?

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So Atlanta gets a major ice storm, people can't leave and are stuck inside, and long time guy starts posting a lot more? Hmmmmmmm.

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Speculation on the host Speculation on the host Why don't we just keep starting threads about on behind the scenes score stuff. McNeil is leaving no he's staying nah he's leaving no he's staying. Larry sucks Larry sucks wait a minute Larry sucks did I just say Larry sucks. Let me say it again though differently Larry sucks. Wait I have talked about Larry too much let me move over to Speigs he's always a ready and willing target. I guess you'd rather discuss that repetitive and overdone stuff again. Change the beat DJ

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Leno
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He hasn't won a championship. A lot of players haven't including Kevin Durant. According to the imminently quotable Bernstein as long as you have Lebron James you win a championship. That stupid theory is going to get tested this year. Dwayne Wade is not a top five player this year. Probably is not a top 30 player. I want to see how far the Heat can go with just Lebron James. Carmelo Anthony has never played with a top five player during his career. He has not played with a top 10 player during his career. I know some will throw Iverson out there he was on the decline when he got to Denver. Its an easy narrative to say a person isn't a winner when they haven't won but which players on this team can you win with? Which NBA player is going to win a championship when your second best player is J.R. Smith?



the 08-09 Nuggets team had 6 players averaging double figures, and DB's guy Kleiza at 9.9ppg so nearly a 7th
a 'declining' Iverson averaged 18.7/6.7 and shot 45%
Kobe just showed him what a winner was in the conf finals ...


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For instance when discussing the "n" word i mentioned that I am an African American.


I'm sorry, but we use the term "balck", around here.

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long time guy,
As a favor to the board, we ask that you don't quote Q. Bovifs posts.

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What are the odds that two people in the United States have yet to realize that Carmelo Anthony won't ever win anything?


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He hasn't won a championship. A lot of players haven't including Kevin Durant. According to the imminently quotable Bernstein as long as you have Lebron James you win a championship. That stupid theory is going to get tested this year. Dwayne Wade is not a top five player this year. Probably is not a top 30 player. I want to see how far the Heat can go with just Lebron James. Carmelo Anthony has never played with a top five player during his career. He has not played with a top 10 player during his career. I know some will throw Iverson out there he was on the decline when he got to Denver. Its an easy narrative to say a person isn't a winner when they haven't won but which players on this team can you win with? Which NBA player is going to win a championship when your second best player is J.R. Smith?



the 08-09 Nuggets team had 6 players averaging double figures, and DB's guy Kleiza at 9.9ppg so nearly a 7th
a 'declining' Iverson averaged 18.7/6.7 and shot 45%
Kobe just showed him what a winner was in the conf finals ...

Denver didn't make it to the conf. finals that year. I believe they went out first round. They made the conf. finals when they had Billups. That was their best shot. My point exactly 18 points a game for a scorer is not top five or top ten. Denver got better once they traded Iverson. Detroit got worse when they acquired and so did Philly his second go round with them. Look at the records. Philly became immediately better simply by trading Iverson for Andre Miller. He was definitely on the decline.

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As a favor to the board, we ask that you don't quote Q. Bovifs posts.


Now I know and knowing is half the battle.

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Denver didn't make it to the conf. finals that year. I believe they went out first round. They made the conf. finals when they had Billups. That was their best shot. .


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PTS/G: 104.3 (6th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 100.9 (18th of 30)
SRS: 3.13 (8th of 30) ▪ Pace: 94.3 (6th of 30)
Off Rtg: 110.4 (7th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 106.8 (8th of 30)
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We'll learn a lot about Carmelo and how much he thinks his teammates are a problem in free agency.

If the excuses for Carmelo are true, he has to leave the Knicks.

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Why don't you just get the fuck out of here, you coward?

Pussy ass - afraid to post under your real name.

Reinventing yourself anonymously is not allowed here, you fuckin' putz!

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Denver didn't make it to the conf. finals that year. I believe they went out first round.

That's every year of Melo's career except once. Not very successful.

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Why don't you just get the fuck out of here, you coward?

Pussy ass - afraid to post under your real name.

Reinventing yourself anonymously is not allowed here, you fuckin' putz!


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Struck a nerve I guess. Who is sensitive now?

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