I heard Mike read the story about Andy Rooney mentioning that most of todays baseball stars are latinos. Rodriguez, Martinez, etc. and no longer does he see Williams, Mantle, etc.

Rooneys response to his own comments, “Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have said it,” Mr. Rooney, 88, tells The New York Times

While it can be discussed if he was just making an observation or an actual derogatory remark, I think most reasonable people can come to the conclusion that in no way did he mean to compliment them.

Of course Mike North came to the conclusion that Rooney meant to compliment the latinos players in the game, thus proving my point of reasonable people.

MY QUESTION

Do we think that Mike North really thinks Rooney was complimenting the latino players as he said, or is North making these calculated statements to get a rise out of people?

I personally think North really thought Rooney was complimenting only because the alternative takes way too much thought.

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Think before you speak

Nope, North really is that big of a moron.

Comes from years of believing your own bullshit, that you can no longer think rationally. Your ability to discuss a point is judged on how much you can yell and scream as well.

For all you kids out there. Pretty sure this is the man who suggested that if you have $100,000 offered to you and you can either go to Northwestern for four years or open a business, Mike tells you to open a Business.

Yes I aspire to own the hot dog stand at 5000 W, Belmont one day, then maybe I can take bets from guys at a radio station (Allegedly you corrupt SOB), then because I would be such a loser at the age of 40 and have nothing better to do, I would beg and plead until they let me on the air.

I am sure the faculty at Notre Dame High School uses the fine example for many career guidance classes.

In fairness to North, he did probably do a lot more with his business than he ever would have done with a college degree. I also think a lot of people would be more suited as entrepreneurs, rather that wasting $100,000 on a degree that could mean next to nothing (sociology, anyone!) Whether you like him as a host or not- and I fall into the latter category- I can't say I totally disagree with him.

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Fire Phil Emery

Pretty sure my concrete guy didn't go to college and he is doing OK.

I get the point thought.

I have heard the arguement for years , as most of the guys I deal with did not go to college.

The degree widens the scope of oppurtunity, it does not assure you of anything, especially the socioligists of the world.

You do get better at partying though, if you attended the right school.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

A good bunch of LAS and "no concentration" business majors are a waste of money unless you continue with a b-school or a professional school. A few years ago, I had a big fight over this notion with the xgf who graduated from a fancy liberal arts college with a degree that she hasn't used once since. It's all about the experience and developing the ability to critically think and challenge the truths. Well if you need a college to develop your thinking skills, I have to wonder WTF have your parents and HS been up to?

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"It's not exactly a rocket surgery." D.J.

You just hit the nail on the head, coach. Let me add that while the italicized sentence could potentially be true, 99% of students aren't going to get anything close to that experience- in fact, a majority of them aren't even really capable of it. I would have said the same thing, almost word for word, back when I was in high school. Now that I'm on my way out of college (and I'm an LAS major- Poli. Sci.) I can attest to how much of a joke that really is. And if you really are capable of higher-order processing and decision making, college isn't absolutely necessary.

There's a lesson to all those non-college graduates out there; don't accept the college-degree snobbery you'll encounter in your lives, because it's absolute bunk.

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I get the point to. However, any tradesman I know of realizes that you rarely can continue doing that kind of work up until the age of retirement these days. It will be necessessary to become either a general contractor or get another job when the physical aches and pains of age prevent real labor. A person whose works with his mind is employable until the age of dementia.

I know no one is arguing against this point, but given the 100K, I'd recommend the education every time.

Italicized statement was a paraphrazed rebuttal I got from the xgf to my notion that her liberal arts college was a waste of time.

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"It's not exactly a rocket surgery." D.J.

I think there is a certain amount of value in education, especially if you will use the degree in your chosen career. My husband doesn't use his degree but he would not have been hired for his job had he not had his degree.

One of my uncles likes to give my parents a hard time because he believes they are suckers for spending 80K for me to be a housewife. I like to think when my children are grown I'll go back to work. Also if something happens to my husband or he leaves me I'll be better off than if I only had a HS education.

There is also a difference in my "non college educated" friends maturity level. I don't know if they will ever grow up. I'm not sure if that is just the way they are or if it's a result of them not attending college. But I believe college is a good learning experience and years spent there were some of the best years of my life.

There is also where a college education benefits you in the workplace in non-measurable ways. While I don't use my degree as a mail carrier, my intelligence and ability to study has allowed me to learn all 24 routes in our department. (Figure 300-500 addresses per route, then it sounds a heck of alot more impressive than "24".) That's an awful amount of information to be able to recall, and I don't think I would be as good as I am as a carrier without my education.

Now, I never have, nor will I, feel that educated workers are "better" than those who never have gone to college. To me, the best workers I've ever known was my grandad and my Uncle John, who were two hard workers. Grandpa got his accounting degree, but also worked on it while raising a family, worked the railroads, etc. Uncle John was that stereotypic hard-as-nails Polish lunchbox carrying guys who saved his money, worked his rear off, and made something for himself and his family.

As far as working until retirement, the trades you make very good money; and if you take care of yourself, and see to your physical conditioning, you can easily work into your sixties barring serious injury.

That's not something I would want to bank the last 10 or so years of my working life on.

I've been misquoted.