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 Post subject: Paruch and Zambrano
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:09 pm 
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Brian Paruch was criticizing Cubs fans tonite for booing Zambrano and not offering support. Brian basically echoed Carlos' after game thoughts about the fans.

Last time I checked the ticket stub, there was nothing saying that I had act like a lemming and cheer the Cubs no matter what happened on the field. Brian said it is the fans job to support the team. No, when I go to the game I pay to be entertained and hope to see the home team win. When a player does not consistently live up to my expectations and plays poorly, don't expect to get cheered.

It's one thing if this start had been an aberration, one bad start out of 10. But he hasn't won in a month, has had two good months out of six and just signed a contract for about 18 million a year. By signing this lucrative contract expectations have been raised, if he can't handle it then tough.

Brian also mentioned that if a player gives it his all, he shouldn't get booed if his performance still suffers. This isn't little league. You don't win trophies for hustle, in the end the only thing that matters is win and losses and championships. Is it fair? Maybe not, but getting paid millions of dollars to play a child's game should more than make up for it.

Brian also mentioned that Carlos should have built up some equity due to his success in previous years. Well Carlos has been a good to very good pitcher, but last time I checked he has won no Cy Young awards, and pitched poorly in the 2003 playoffs. Zambrano 16 wins last year does nothing to help the Cubs this year.

I just get tired of pampered athletes, mostly Cub players, complaining of getting booed. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Or go play in KC or Tampa, you probably won't get booed if you play poorly. Of course there might not be anyone in the stands.


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Paruch is finally in over his head: he's either an idiot or he's playing one for some kind of sports street cred. What's Zambrano done since he signed a big contract, is he 0-6?


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How do the Sox fans--who DEMAND A WINNER, just ask White Sox Interactive--treat their poor outings from pitchers?

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Curious Hair wrote:
How do the Sox fans--who DEMAND A WINNER, just ask White Sox Interactive--treat their poor outings from pitchers?


Jon Garland got booed in the past.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:30 am 
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Brian Paruch was criticizing Cubs fans tonite for booing Zambrano and not offering support. Brian basically echoed Carlos' after game thoughts about the fans.

Last time I checked the ticket stub, there was nothing saying that I had act like a lemming and cheer the Cubs no matter what happened on the field. Brian said it is the fans job to support the team. No, when I go to the game I pay to be entertained and hope to see the home team win. When a player does not consistently live up to my expectations and plays poorly, don't expect to get cheered.

It's one thing if this start had been an aberration, one bad start out of 10. But he hasn't won in a month, has had two good months out of six and just signed a contract for about 18 million a year. By signing this lucrative contract expectations have been raised, if he can't handle it then tough.

Brian also mentioned that if a player gives it his all, he shouldn't get booed if his performance still suffers. This isn't little league. You don't win trophies for hustle, in the end the only thing that matters is win and losses and championships. Is it fair? Maybe not, but getting paid millions of dollars to play a child's game should more than make up for it.

Brian also mentioned that Carlos should have built up some equity due to his success in previous years. Well Carlos has been a good to very good pitcher, but last time I checked he has won no Cy Young awards, and pitched poorly in the 2003 playoffs. Zambrano 16 wins last year does nothing to help the Cubs this year.

I just get tired of pampered athletes, mostly Cub players, complaining of getting booed. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Or go play in KC or Tampa, you probably won't get booed if you play poorly. Of course there might not be anyone in the stands.


I wonder if he is taking this viewpoint to take the oppostive viewpoint....


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I agree that a fan has every right to boo someone at a game should they choose to. However, a couple thoughts:

1. I agree with Brian in the sense that I would never boo someone over their performance, unless their performance is a reflection of their lack of preperation or a lack of effort. You have every right to do so, but I would not.

2. What exactly are we saying when we "Boo"...can we please explain what we are saying when we yell out this word "Boo"..........and what exactly are we trying to accomplish by booing. What is the end goal here. I think most of the time we don't really think about why we are booing, maybe we are just saying "You suck!", which is fine and you have a right to do that. I however would question the maturity of such a response.

Just some thoughts......talk amonst yourselves.......

Also, does anyone know the history of booing...when did it start. Was it in athletics, politics, etc.???


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I think most of the time we don't really think about why we are booing, maybe we are just saying "You suck!", which is fine and you have a right to do that. I however would question the maturity of such a response.

I think that's exactly what it is. It's a venting of a fan's frustration with an unsatisfactory moment.

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They weren't booing they were saying moooooo-vers.


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They weren't saying "boo", they were saying, "boo-urns".

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I was saying "Booo-urns."

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