Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
You didn't buy a car that you knew would not perform - that would be a bad decision. You bought a car that could objectively be proven to provide reliable service for a very long time.
So it's not a bad decision if at the time you don't think it's a bad decision. Got it.
veganfan21 wrote:
Trading for Cutler while knowing via advanced knowledge that he'd never translate his obvious talent into sustained success would be a bad decision. Since that sort of intel was obviously not available at the time, it's invalid to use that knowledge to retroactively criticize the trade.
There were plenty of question marks on Cutler back then. You may not have seen them but the very fact that Denver was so quick to give up on him was one on it's own.
veganfan21 wrote:
I don't know or remember the trades in your post. Trades or acquisitions cannot only be judged by results, they also have to be judged against the knowledge and circumstances of the time.
You don't remember the Rick Mirer trade? How old are you?
veganfan21 wrote:
Otherwise there really is no thinking involved in hindsight heavy proclamations: premodern scholars were wrong about geocentrism, scouts were wrong about Len Bias' life expectancy - this is all self-evident and makes for lazy thinking, to the extent thinking is involved at all.
Obviously, an event like the death of a player is a different thing. I'm not sure what an incorrect scientific theory has to do with anything.
Are you honestly saying that the Cutler trade was a good trade because Jerry Angelo thought it was a good trade at the time he made it? That seems to basically mean every trade ever made was good, unless some GM is so dumb they are doing a trade they know is bad just because they like being fired.
That's not what I'm saying about the Benz. You buy a brand new Benz tomorrow, and it breaks down or fails to meet its expected performance benchmarks: did you make a bad decision? To me you didn't, you just had bad luck.
You acquire a pro bowl 25 year old QB with a rocket arm, moderately difficult personality issues, and who is otherwise trending upward. Price aside, since that doesn't seem to be your criticism, did you make a bad decision? No, absolutely not. You make that move all day. I think 312 players criticism of the price is valid because it doesnt depend on hindsight, I just disagree with it.
Of course not all decisions are good ones simply because you or I think so at the time. The circumstances and thought process must be judged. For example I thought at the time the Bulls made a disastrous decision to sign Ben freaking Wallace; Paxson should have been excoriated for adding a redundant piece to a team that already had scoring issues. It was stupid from all perspectives at the time, even while ignoring his eventual performance.
I don't know much about Mirer. I probably started watching for real when I was in high school around 2003 or something.
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